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Johnny Ransom - General Manager for GAA Classic Car Auctions

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• One of the newest and hottest classic and collector car auctions on the market right now. How did GAA get started? Tell us about its history.
• You have an all-indoor venue known as “The Palace.”   With 6-acres under one roof, how many cars can GAA accommodate? How many guests? Are there things to do for friends & Family that might be “dragged along” to an auction?
• Is there a genre of vehicle GAA specializes in?  Muscle cars, exotics, classics, foreign/domestic? 
• Any famous “auctioneers” on the GAA team?
• What are things that the first-timer should know before attending an event? What are some do’s and don’t for a first time Auction goer? Expectations?
• Walk us through the selling process? What is needed to list and sell an item with GAA?
• One of the “drawbacks” we’ve heard that causes people to shy away from Auctions comes when the bidding gets out of control and then you have to pay a 5-10% auction house premium. With prices so high, why would someone go to an auction to get a car? What is the advantage of an auction over a private or brokered sale?
• In recent years especially, we’ve seen a lot of new auction companies pop up online, selling cars via the internet.  What are the benefits of this format? What are the drawbacks?
• What do you see as the hot trend right now in sales? Where do you think the market is going?  What do you see as the next big thing?

and much, much more!

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Classic car auctions are all the rage these days. The collector car market has been booming for the past decade or so, and auctions have been growing accordingly, both in grandiosity and media coverage. You’ve probably seen auctions taking place on TV or online with the biggest events being concourses, like affairs fetching record [00:01:00] prices, which make headlines for weeks to.

It’s a misconception that classic and collector car auctions are reserved for the ludicrously rich buying cars for hundreds of thousands of dollars or more auctions offer an enthusiast the opportunity to network with like-minded people and are a great way to learn about special interest vehicles you may not be familiar with, but find you have an interest in.

And the team at G A. Classic car auctions offers a spectacular experience for both the first time or the seasoned auction goer devoted to producing the best classic and collector auction experience. Folks like Johnny Ransom, general Manager for G A A are hands-on and willing to help you with whatever needs.

Might arise and he’s here tonight to explain to us how it all works and co-hosting. With me tonight is Don Weiberg from Garage Dial Magazine. So welcome to Break Fix, Johnny. Well thank you. I appreciate the invitation. Johnny, before we get started talking about G A A classic cars, tell us a little bit about your automotive past.

[00:02:00] Have you always been in the car world? What got you into. No, I was not always in, well, when I got outta school, everything in our area here in North Carolina was textiles and also furniture. This is still the furniture capital of the world. High Point, North Carolina and I, many guys, they were so many furniture companies here that you can make really good money.

Directly outta school benefits. I mean, enough average guy could buy a hole, get married, have a kid, send it to college, be able to have two vehicles. I mean, you weren’t gonna be a millionaire by no means, but you could live a good life. So I was working for Thomasville Furniture, got outta college. The guy was a manager over there, and I had this young lady that was retired under.

Her name was Betty Jo Johnson and her brother was the general manager of Greensboro Auto Auction, and she was retiring and she kissed me on the cheek one day and our way out after we gave her a retirement party, said, I’m gonna tell my brother about you. Said you’re a really good manager. He said the best thing about you.

You know how to [00:03:00] talk to people. People say stuff to y’all time, you never think nothing about it. I never thought one thing about it. Three months later I got a phone call. It was him asking me to come into his office. He wanted to talk. So I had an interview with him and I did everything. I worked on a Chrysler account there, worked on a Ford account there, fleet operations manager there.

I was blocking control over the auction. I actually, lemme get it back. My dad was into farming and so forth earlier in, in his lifetime, and I was always messing around with him. But then he became a welder. We always had a little bit of land where we were at and we always tinkered on tractors and cars and stuff.

I was always enthused with cars. It wasn’t like I didn’t know how to actually change the batteries. Change square plugs in the day when you know, you cylinder switches, pull your cobs, your airflow. I mean, these are things that you’d done in the sixties and seventies. You know, you really, that’s what kids done.

They hung out with their dads and they learned so much from them about being able to tin over these cars. Well, these are the cars we sell now. They’re carburetor cars and, and they’re [00:04:00] totally different than few injected cars and, and there’s a whole lot of things that most people don’t know. It’s real simple to be able to figure out what makes that car go if there’s a problem.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist in order or plug up a computer to figure out to tell you what’s wrong. Most of ’em, you know what’s wrong. So this is stuff I got into dude, but worked about four years in the paint and body and got a lot of paint and body experience missing with. At that time we were doing 8,000 cars a month, and it was going through painting and body 8,000 cars a month going through recon.

I mean, we were really, really booming with that many cars. That’s how big this operation, everything was 24 hours a day there. So I got a lot of experience and Mr. Green, fortunately everything at his company. He never really liked to go out and bring a guy in. If there was something opening up, he always liked to promote within.

Luckily, I was able to be able to go through a lot of different areas there and get a lot more experience. So when the GAA Classic Arts come about, I was the next guy online, so to speak. So let’s talk about one of the newest and hottest classic and collector [00:05:00] car auctions on the market right now. Tell us about how GA A got started.

2010, we started talking. We had a regular dealer auction, which is the largest independent dealer auction, which is ga a Greensboro auto auction. We run 17 lanes every Wednesday. And we started doing some survey. We had a lot of customers always wanting us to come over and start a classic car auction, and we found out real quick that we averaged between twenty seven hundred and thirty five hundred people actually walking in the door on Wednesdays to buy late model cars.

They had 70% of them had at least one. Collector car. So that really got, our eyebrows really rose, and we was like, well, we had a facility there that we did high line cards in, and that’s called the palace. We wasn’t using it at the time because 2007, eight is really when they started this cash for clunkers, and the economy was really not doing that well.

All of our eggs was into one basket. That’s when we was trying to think outside the basket. So to. So that’s when we came up with it. [00:06:00] And so then we all jumped in a plane one day and rode down to Micham in Emmi, and we were very impressed. This was like 2010 when we was down there looking around and said, oh, we can do this.

This is no different than what we do week in and week out. So we started in 2012. We had our first auction, 350 cars opened up consignments, and we had those consignments done within 60 days. We have 90% of the auction field within CC days. It was like, this is ridiculous. You know, most people struggle to get cars from that day forward.

Every cell is like, everybody learns something and something to be able to make it better, you know, to be able to have our facility. Almost six and a half acres under one roof. All the cars is amazing. Climate control. And then, you know, the cool thing about it is you go to any other auction, you’re in there, you drop the car off and then you got 48 hours or so to get the car out cause you got a rodeo or something coming in behind you.

We don’t have a, we [00:07:00] got a luxury. You call me up and say, Hey, I’m gonna consign this card with you. Can I ship it? Absolutely. It’s in a secure building. There’s nothing going to happen to it, and we don’t have a bunch of people running around there messing with the cars. I bet you we got 290 cars sitting in our building right now for the November 3rd sale, and our customers really like that.

I mean, I have people from Texas to Detroit that actually buys cars on the East coast and just ship ’em directly to. And I mean these are some major players also and it’s worked out for ’em to be able to have another outlet to be able to have a different way of being able to buy cars, to sell cars. We have been able to generate from within our facility there a lot of good cars.

So it is been a double whammy for us to be able to generate cars. We’ve been very fortunate. We have a little bit of edge on most people don’t you were talking about auction companies that go around, you know, they go around the country, they set up events. Some of ’em even go around the. And set up events, and you guys keep it right there at home.

You’ve got your six acres under one [00:08:00] roof at the palace. How many guests can that accommodate? Oh my, you can imagine six and a half acres under one roof is a lot of room. We have seating from almost 600 people in our arena. When you come to our auction, or if you ever looked at it online, you’ll see we’ve packed the six.

Plus we have people standing up. There’s some people come in and they even bring their chairs with them and they just sit near their cars or whatever, and it’s just like a car show. If you ever came to an auction, you’re gonna bring new car to an auction. It ain’t that. You’re gonna put it on Friday 1 51 and go and sit up there at the arena.

You’re never going to sell your car, so you better go stand by side your car. Somebody’s gonna want to know your information and that’s how you sell your car by being next to your car. To answer it, don’t matter, this guy that you think can’t rub two nickels together, probably be one of the most wealthiest people you ever met in your life.

And it’s very important to be cordial with people. If I’m understanding correctly, Johnny, you actually encourage [00:09:00] your seller. To stand with their car and talk to potential buyers. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Is that different from other auction houses? Yeah, in some cases. But you know, when I go to other auction houses, you can always see the serious sellers, cuz most of the time they’re there.

You could tell the ones that’s really serious about selling their cars. You see the guys that stick around with their cars or sale, that’s your better car. They’re the ones that take a lot more pride about selling a car. Want you to know about the card and just go in and putting a car on a number and, and hope it sells a cell.

That’s just not how you sell the car. Mm-hmm. You know, you go and spend some time with your car, you got your car, or with multiple cars, be by your cars. Encourage, be able to talk to people. I’m telling you that warm fuzzy feeling means a lot to people when you’re purchasing a car. Everybody knows that you don’t feel good about when you walk into a new dealership or used car lot or whatever.

If you don’t feel that a real warm and fuzzy feeling about it, you’re gonna go the other way. Or if you feel like somebody just don’t care, you know? Right. A lot of times you’ll have 48 [00:10:00] hours to sell your car, be in there a couple of days, so you need to take advantage of that time. Our crew all time encouraged the guys when they were consigning cars.

Spend some time on your cars when you get here just to make sure they look the best they can. Make sure you spend some time mi. Cause people’s gonna come and ask questions. I think it helps tremendously. Our sales rate has been very high here for the last two years and I know the pandemic had a lot to do with it.

Just like anything else with the car market right now. Even our last sale we had in July, we still had really good numbers. We still sold a lot of cars, 89% if I’m not mistaken, but still it shows the. By being with your car, being able to talk to people, the ones that’s going to take the time to come and actually be there, that’s absolutely amazing.

You can accommodate all those people. Are there a lot of things to do for friends and family that might be, uh, you know, quote unquote dragged along to the auction? You know, Hey, dad’s going to the auction. Oh God, here we go. Are there other diversions that they can join in [00:11:00] or is it pretty much No, we’re gonna go look at cars with dad.

Well, at this point, We’re gonna go look at cars with Dad, but we just got done with the new expansion. Our goal is that the memorabilia aspect of the auction is so hot right now. I don’t know if you guys have been keeping up with that also, but memorabilia is just. Out the route. In my opinion, it is worse than any collector card it’s ever been on the market right now.

I mean, it’s insane. So we have built this facility, we got in the back and we’re installing it as we speak. A jumbotron 50 foot wide, 18 foot tall. It’s mammoth, mammoth, jumbo, drawn, and he’s taking those screens and gonna put ’em in the. In that new building, hopefully in February, we’re going to start doing memorabilia starting around eight 30 every morning till about 11 o’clock the same time as a regular auction’s going on.

So we’re going to try to double dip. We’re gonna try to start selling [00:12:00] several hundred pieces of memorabilia, each cell. Are you saying you’re gonna host the memorabilia sale at the same time simultaneously with the cars? Absolutely. Wow, okay. That’s kinda mind blowing. Absolutely. You know the people that dabbles in the Memora Villa.

Is the same people that buys these cars and 90% of the people just the same scenario that we’d done before. We’d done the auction park for the cars. We started doing a little bit of surveying that stuff for memorabilia, and 70, it was 71% of the people that actually come to auction. Has some kind of memorabilia in their house or they got a man cave or wherever they do with their cars, even in their regular garages, they all want this stuff around their cars.

So I mean, it’s a win-win for you. That’s our next big step. We’re going toward a memorabilia. I would not be surprised within two years that we will have a memorabilia sale every month. That would be incredible. Yeah, that’s what we’re trying to do. The way he built this facility, we got a [00:13:00] separate parking lot.

We got a separate entrance to it. To be able to do that without even messing with the cards whatsoever. So that will be the next big thing for us with the memorabilia, with all the cars. You guys auction and believe me, I’ve scoured your website. There are several cars coming up in November that I’m really champing at the bit for.

I don’t see a specialty. You guys pretty much sell it all. Is there sort of a specialty that you like to say you gravitate to? I can honestly tell you if I’m sitting there and I’m looking at a Volkswagen, I got a Chavee and I got a four by four pickup truck and it’s got decent miles on it and it’s got a a two inch lift on it, and it’s a automatic air condition power steering truck.

That truck and that chaves going over here in this stack to the right, that Volkswagen’s going to the left. I’m gonna take the truck and I’m gonna take the Chave. Cause we really, really knock it out the park with muscle cars and trucks. That’s what’s special. Everybody knows we get really good money.

We’re in our muscle cars and we get really good money with our trucks. We do good with our foreign cars, you know, [00:14:00] with our Ferrari and Porsches and our stuff like that. And the reason why a lot of people don’t realize it, we don’t have a ton of them. We’ll have a little bit here on Friday and a little bit here on Saturday, and we always sell ’em.

We’ve been very fortunate. We always get good enough money to get it. On your website, you’ve got a few Ferrari, you know, you don’t have to take a Ferrari to somebody to sell if they don’t know what they’re doing. Well, I have a guy in Greensboro that’s a Ferrari dealer and he’s gotta collect, and he’s a good friend of mine.

He’s got several hundred cards in his collection and he always gets me Ferrari. Every sale give me, for Orange Porsche, he always sends me four or five cars every sale, and plus he takes some of their trade-ins and sends ’em over there. To me, it might have just a little bit more miles than he wants to put on his lot.

We always have ’em. That’s the beauty of what we do. We’ll have the thirties cars, the pre-war cars. We’ll have a few of those. We’ll have some European cars. I mean, we got the Ferrari. We’ll have some Mercedes. We saw a G Wagon, last sale, brand new 2021 G Wagon. It didn’t have a 2000 miles on it. I mean, we do a little bit of everything [00:15:00] when it comes to selling, especially at an auction.

The auctioneer’s personality, the auctioneer’s barking ability, if you will, has a lot to do with the audience reaction. Do you have any famous auctioneers that you guys work with? We don’t really have what you call famous auctioneer. We got a lot of people that’s played and dabbled with some of the big boys, so to speak, like the people that actually worked for Barrett Jackson and so forth like that in the past.

But you know, we’ve got 17 lanes on Wednesday and we got 17 lanes with auctioneers and ring guys. We have a picket of litter, so to speak, but Steele. It’s a lot different from going to your regular auction on Wednesday that you gotta buy that car because that’s how you make your living. You gotta have inventory on your lot to someone that comes over here to a classical auction that don’t have to buy a thing.

I have people that come in from California. Their best friend lived in Pittsburgh and he’s got another friend that lived in Orlando and they just come to the auction when we have an auction so they can hang out all. But they all dabble in cars. They always get a [00:16:00] couple of cars so they can flip ’em or whatever, but they come and hang out.

They have a great time. They love cars, and they come to spend a whole weekend in Greensboro, North Carolina, and a car. Guys are gonna be around cars and a car. Guys love cars, that they’re going to be there no matter what. Amen to that, Johnny. And I gotta tell you something, I gotta confess something. I’ve never been to an auction before.

This episode’s actually really important to me because I wanna learn more about the experience as a first time auction goer. Why don’t you help educate me and our listeners as well as to what some of the expectations might be for attending an event like a GAA auction. What are some dos and dots for first time auction Goers?

And are there any fees? Do we have to pay to come? Just check it out and see what’s going on. Most auctions, they have a gate fee to be able to get $20 a day, $30 a day. Or in the sense of Bear Jackson Scottsville, you’re paying a hundred dollars a day to get in. Ours is a little different. We don’t have a $20 a day ticket or whatever.

Anybody could come to the auction, but we just want you to be a [00:17:00] registered bidder. Now, we started that process right when the pandemic hit. We didn’t know how we was gonna do this. But we knew we couldn’t sell a $20 ticket. You gotta remember, you go back and look. There was not that many options going on across the United States.

There was only a handful. It ain’t no. Tell ’em where they, what might be. We were one of the few that own our facility. That was the best thing we’ve ever done. We own our facility. We can monitor the people. We could take X amount of people. We didn’t let the public in. You could come in as long as you was a bidder.

And we was like, man, we might be holding something here. And even the dealers and the buyers and the sellers that come in love that than having just 10 or 12,000. People were in the room, just slammed up, slamming your doors, sitting on your cars, taking their drinks, and putting them on your cars while they’re checking their phone or whatever.

I mean, just all the crazy little things. We’ve been very fortunate to be able to do that, and I think that was been one of the reasons our success was really, really so great. 95% sales [00:18:00] for 20, 20 and 93% sales. I’m talking about every sale for 2021. That’s insane. It was just nuts. I mean, crazy. But it was people that had regular car dealerships that couldn’t get inventory.

They were buying classic cars. They had mouth of feed. They had people that was waiting on ’em. They was needing cars out there. They needed to sell something. Hey, they were coming and buying classic cars, putting ’em on their lock. So are you implying that because of the chip shortage during Covid that dealerships turned to, let’s say these Carbureted cars?

They did. I mean, Mr. Green’s got a Ford store down there for 50 years. They got a Lincoln store down there for 25 years and every one of ’em had classic cars on them and we sold ’em all and they kept ’em. And now even today, I got guys and they can maintain every sale there by three to four vehicles, but they got Chevrolet Dealerships four dealer.

Buy some really nice Ford trucks or whatever and put ’em in the showroom. Yeah. And they have no problem selling them. It’s just like another day. You talked about the gate [00:19:00] fee. It could be 20 bucks depending on where you go. It could be a hundred bucks on the other end of the scale. So I got this fantasy from watching TV of what an auction is like.

Right. You got this guy with a ping pong paddle on his hand with a number on it, angry faces. Everybody’s lifting it up, you know, trying to get in there and and get their bids in. So is that really how it works? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely not. You better be ready when you’re car. If you’re gonna bid on one, you just better be ready.

You need to pay attention and pay attention to your surroundings. Also, it will take you from zero to a hundred real quick if you’re not careful. I personally tell everybody, listen, if you’re interested in a car, if you don’t hear that car, say it’s the reserves off. Well, first timer, don’t bid. Don’t bid on until you’re, hear the reserves off.

When the reserves off. Jump right on in. Cause that’s going to take it down to just a few people instead of 10 or 15 people playing in on it. And you don’t need to drive that price up any higher. They gonna do it on their own. You here, the reserves off, jump right on in. If [00:20:00] you don’t hear the reserve off and it says no sell, we got what we call the deal doctor and you can go over there and negotiate a deal.

And that’s how we have cars for sale after they roll off the. Becoming a registered bidder, is that the same as pre-registration? I see it on some sites, register to buy, you know, things like that. Is, does that get you on the list? Does that inform you that I’m interested in that particular vehicle? How does that whole system work?

Well, you can be a pre-registered, it’s 150 bucks up to the week of the sale. The week of the sale, it jumps to $200. So they encourage you to pre-register early so you could save a few bucks. And also if you going to come, you want to come early and you want to come early enough that you can do your inspection yourself at the car.

You know you wanna look underneath the car, you want to check the car out, you wanna see if there’s any documentation. They say they still had the window sticker. You’ll like to go and see the window sticker, everything that you read on that car that says about the car and what the car comes. You want to actually physically see it.

If it says a Windows sticker bill sheet protector plate, [00:21:00] you wanna go look at it, you wanna see it. You don’t wanna just take the word for it. Not to say that that ever happens, but I’m just saying you wanna see it. You wanna be able to be educated yourself about what you fixing the purchase. Now, let’s just say you going to be a online bidder, so you could go ahead and be an online bidder.

You can get pre-registered for that. Also, we do proxy. But also I suggest, and all my girls, anybody calls in says they are interested being an online bidder or a phone bidder. We have onsite people that will do inspections for you directly during independence. They don’t work for the auction, and they’ll work for you and their license bonded.

Everything they tell you will be the gospel about that car. Most of the time. They will actually give you ranges about what those cars go for before you fit. They will do all your legwork for you nice. So you know that you’re not overpaying for it. For about 300 bucks, you got someone that’s going to number one, check your car out.

Number two, make sure that your card that you’re buying is a quality piece. And number three, they going encourage you where to be at on the money. So [00:22:00] if I heard you right, what you’re telling me, The guy with the ping pong paddle sitting in his chair. You got this dude with a phone up to his ear and a faceless voice on the other side of that, and people online all bidding simultaneously on the same vehicle.

Yes sir. Yes sir. Wow. A heck of a thing to experience. So let’s go back to the sale. You’re there the first time buyer. You go, man, I. Really wanted that. Ferrari 3 0 8, that one Ferrari that was in the list and you bought it. Now is the expectation that I show up with a duffle bag full of cash. I mean, how do I buy this car?

Is it like buying from a dealership? Johnny? He’s watched a lot of Miami Vice. I could tell. I could tell Ferrari and bags of cash. Yeah, it’s the eighties, baby. Hey, you’ll be surprised at the amount of people that actually comes to the auction with cash. We have a little dark room with security people.

Trust me, when you go in there, it happens every sale. You just wouldn’t believe it. I had an old guy come in one time from Texas and he bought, I bet you seven or [00:23:00] eight cars. He said, I need to pay for this thing. I said, well, you bought everybody a check. He said, I don’t write checks. I said, you don’t write checks.

He said, no. He says, I pay cash. I thought he was kidding. You know how people talk? He did. They say stuff all the time. I pay cash. Okay. But he had a motor home. Went across the street. We got 17 motor home hookups, full hookups across the street, and they’re free by the way. He come back to the auction, he had two Walmart plastic bags full of cash, and he went in there and dumped him on my desk.

I said, oh. God. I said, get this outta here. Now, I was scared to death and he was laughing the whole time. He said, I told you I paid cash. I said, yes, you did. Yes you did. You did tell me you paid cash. But no, the real way is you can bring a check or you go to the bank and get what they call guaranteed funds with a bank letter and you can wire the money.

We’ll give you a bill of. And you can contact your bank and we’ll give you wire instructions and wire the money over on Monday’s file. Now, do you guys [00:24:00] do financing as well, because I know there is classic car financing as well. Yes, we have JJ Bess on site. They’re there the whole weekend. Today we’ll do some financing for you also.

When you purchase something, how did GAA ensure the title transfers paperwork? All the formalities are tended to you gotta a remember too now. And I don’t, I keep referring back to our regular auction across the street. So you gotta remember we’re selling 2000, 3000 cards a week. So all those cars have titles that we deal with.

So all those people that worked at Greensboro Auto Auction, when we have our regular cell, we call that pump and dump. We pump them, people over dump ’em in our. And every one of our people in that works for us. They worked for the North Carolina DMV at one time. That’s how they were hired. They used to work for the North Carolina dmv, so they’re very highly experienced when you sell your car.

I’m going to ask you to send me some pictures of your car. I’m going to ask you to send us a copy of your title front and back. A good clean. I’m gonna also ask for you to gimme a picture [00:25:00] of the VIN on the car. We immediately, as soon as he hits, I got a person, sister, all day, every day they take a title, they check that number, and they take the copy of the VIN picture of the vin, and they make sure the two matches.

If there’s a issue before you ship the car, we’ve already contact you and told you, Hey, there’s a issue as a digit off on your title, blah, blah, blah. We ran a Carfax, we ran an auto. We ran a Nevis report. It says in 1970, this car was, uh, stolen. It’s, and it’s got a stolen history. 1972, this car was, says it was issued a claim for total loss damaged, and got a damaged title here, says it was a total loss and now it’s got a nothing on this title.

So this car is supposedly supposed to have a salvage. You know, all that stuff. We check, we do all that stuff behind the scenes where nobody knows before we sell that car. There’s a lot of legwork that goes into it. It ain’t just, Hey, I’m gonna take my car to the OP 10, I’m gonna sell the car. We gotta [00:26:00] guarantee all this stuff.

That was kind of where the question came from telling Eric the other day, or the other week or something about a story. It was an auction house and it was one of our subscribers. He bought a car in auction, enjoyed the car for a year, year, and a. Took it to, uh, an auction to sell it. He was tired of it. He wanted to get something else.

The auction company tells him, you know, your paperwork’s all messed up on this car. We can’t sell this car the way it is. Who sold you this car in the first place? And he says, well, you guys did one of those situations of here we are dealing with professional, big auction companies, you think everything’s gonna be fine, everything’s gonna be golden.

Then you hear stories like this, and believe me, there’s multitudes of them. I’m sure you know about it working in the industry. Oh yeah. So to hear you guys saying you’re in the background, you’re doing, you know, all this due diligence, but are there any sort of guarantees that people can have like they know for sure On our bill of sales, when you sign it, it says, we guarantee you a good type for any reason that you take that car and you get it and you take it to your DMV and you cannot get a title.

All you had do was pick up that phone cause you already signed a [00:27:00] contract and grant that we guarantee you a good title. Okay? So GAA is behind every sale all the way, all the way, all the way. We gotta be able to give you a good, and we g and it’s in writing on our bills and sales. We guarantee you a good title.

Going back to my duffle bag of cash scenario. When someone inevitably buys something at the auction or they’re the winner of of the bidding, there’s gotta be fees and other things that get compiled on top of that. So I wanna explore that a little bit for the listeners so they understand the total cost of purchase when you buy something at auction, in addition to.

Auction house fees, I’m assuming people have to pay their state, federal sales taxes, all those kinds of, not North Carolina. And some states you do. I mean like I used to go to Auburn, Indiana, and if you wasn’t a dealer and it is just average Joe, like you and I went up there and purchased a car, they would make you pay those state taxes right then.

I know when the Mecu has that auction up there to Indy every year, and a [00:28:00] lot of those people don’t realize that either. They gotta pay taxes on that. Right. Then if you average Joe, if you’re dealer, you don’t have to. But in North Carolina we’ll hand you a title. We don’t have to do that at all. As the buyer, I’m responsible for doing all the paperwork with my local D M V, especially if I’m outta state.

And then I would assume state inspections are the same thing, right? That’s correct. Now, every state don’t do state inspections. North Carolina does. When you buy one, if you gotta out. Title. When you go there, they will give you paperwork and they’ll actually give you a tag, but they won’t give you your title back until you have an inspection done by the local DMV and the titles that are issued to the buyer.

Are the owner’s original titles or are the cars all retitled in North Carolina? No, no. They’re the owner’s original title and they signed them over to you or. If we purchase ’em, they are actually signed into your name, right? Then going back to those percentages, there’s different ways that auctions are handled.

I’m of the eBay generation, so I get it. There’s a fee for listing and there’s a fee for selling and all that [00:29:00] kind of thing. There’s also the real estate model where the buyer and the seller, both percentages taken from the sale itself by the house. How do your percentages work when you’re buying a vehicle?

Well, we do 8%. If you’re purchasing a vehicle, if it no salt across the block and that’s when you go to the deal doctor, your percentage will be much less because they’ll negotiate a percentage then on how much you going to pay when you go up there and make negotiation on the car. It could be 5%, it could be 6%, but it will be less than 8%.

Expect to pay somewhere between five and eight on top of whatever the final value of the car is. Yeah. As the fee for buying. Yeah, that’s correct. So we talked about the buying experience. What about the flip side, Johnny? What about selling the car? You told us that it’s a good idea to stand with a car and talk to people who are coming by and want to know more about it.

Walk us through a selling process. What is needed to list and sell an item with G aa? I want to sell my Mustang. What do I. Alright, so you immediately go online to gaa classic cards.com. [00:30:00] There’s two ways that you could consign your car. Click right there and it’s called a Digital Way. Step one, what’s your name?

Step two, your address, step three what? Make, model the car, and then go on and on. And you could upload your pictures there and do everything digitally right there. You don’t have to print no paperwork off. You don’t have to do anything whatsoever. Now, the second way is there’s a printable form. There’s still people oldschool that likes a printable form.

You take that form off, look at it, fill it out. You can email it back in to info gaa classic cards.com, along with the pictures, picture of the vin, copy of the title front, and. Very important as soon as it lands on our desk within 24 hours, well, you will get a telephone call from us and hey, we have received your information.

We will let you know within a few days what we can do and get your numbers. So then we’ll return your call and say, Hey, you ask for Saturday number Prime time. Well, We do everything at G AA from the lowest, cheapest car to the most [00:31:00] expensive car as the day goes on. So if you wanted that spot, your car ain’t the $25,000 and you wanted to be in a primetime spot on Saturday, that’s not going to happen.

We’re not going to sell the $25,000 car in between the primetime of our show. We’re gonna actually place you accordingly to what we have available at the time. But you send it in and most of the time we can come to a happy medium with all of our customers. And once we explain that to ’em, they understand thoroughly about how we place the cars.

Now, placing the cars, that probably has a direct correlation on the sell through rates, doesn’t it? Oh, absolutely. Let’s just say you sitting in that Volkswagen, really nice Volkswagen, but it’s a 1970 Volkswagen and you want $55,000 for it. Well, you wanna have a conversation with me? Hey, uh, listen, can you explain to me about your car?

Tell me a little bit about your car. Well, then after you tell me about your car, and I’m gonna say, how did you come up with that $55,000? I, I’ve never sold one here for that amount of money. Can you explain to me? Well, it was my mama’s. I [00:32:00] love my mama, and she was worth a lot of money. Don’t you know my mama?

No, I don’t know your mama. Just crazy stuff like that. So then I have to generally, without insulting them, be able to say, Hey, in the last year, this is how much these cards are being going for. If you’re not willing to keep it within this range right here, I don’t wanna waste your time or mine. I get to make money three times a year and it’s based on what cars I take.

And that’s called grinding them at the beginning instead of waiting to the. You grind them before they get there. I say 55, 60% of the people get a phone call and we talk about pricing, but most auction houses don’t do that. I wanna talk to ’em. I wanna plant that seed in their mind about how much a car is really going to break If you plant that before they get there, they know that.

And so if it don’t meet their expectations, they’ve already been told. So then now you’ve got that chance of be able to our grinder, be able to get them to lift that reserve. Even easier going into the pricing structure of mama’s VW $55,000 when somebody wants to set a [00:33:00] reserve on a car. Is that kind of what we’re talking about right there?

Do most people want to put a reserve on it? Yes. A lot of people wanna put the reserve on it, but for the past five years we have anything, $15,000 in blow. We run no reserve. Reserver, we don’t take you. Oh, okay. So you got a little bit of a standard on that then? Yeah. Well, and what happened was when we got into the business, we had all these people sending all these cars in cause we didn’t know no better.

And we were taking, we had all these people sending that mew in there for $55,000. We get it up there and he wouldn’t sell the car. And the car didn’t bring but 14,000 and he wouldn’t sell the car. It was crazy. Well, number one, we shouldn’t have cut that car. We should’ve tried to get a car that we could’ve sold.

There’s no way you could’ve sold that car. It got one $55,000 knowing it wasn’t gonna bring but 15. And then, you know, it got to the point that four weeks out, that’s when people really got to thinking, man, I got this 1970 Mach one right here, and I wanna sell it. Can I get in the cell? No. I, I, I didn’t want no spots, man.

I just [00:34:00] didn’t have no spots. And so now we’ve learned that we had to slow it down. So in order to slow it down, we had to say $15,000 in blow. From Monday to Monday, we put all the cars in a basket and we’d sit down and we get our computers and we look at every car and we go back and we try to put a price on every car per, before we even start.

And said, we want the car, or if this car’s good enough for us, so to speak, and we have a price that we look at. And like I said, 50 to 55% of ’em gets a phone call and we’re talking about price structure before they get there. But I mean, if it’s way outta kilter, we don’t even consider it. But as long as we get ’em reeled in to where they need to be, I really think that’s part of our success of our auction.

Being able to communicate with the people, being able to talk to people, being able to plant that seed with the. Before the sale actually starts. So that brought up a really interesting question in that, does everything have to run and drive that goes to the auction? Yes, we do. Now there’s some auctions, you know, no big [00:35:00] deal.

We don’t want that. We want what we call frontline ready stuff. We don’t want that. It’s just too much stuff can happen. We get a car that don’t run, drive, no brakes and all this other stuff. It’s just not worth the time for us. Johnny, what if you got a whole collection of cars? Would you handle a collection of cars?

We do it all the time. I got one coming up next year. Uh, really good customer rise. His name was Jerry Smith. He passed away three or four months ago, unfortunately, and we just got the contract signed. He got 250. And a thousand pieces of memorabilia. So we’re gonna have a special sale for him March 30th, 31st and April 1st we’re gonna have a February sale, and then four weeks later we’re gonna have this sale come going back to the cars after running drive scenario in a collection like that 1, 200, 250 cars.

If there’s a couple that are little, uh, handicapped, so to say. Is that okay? Or do you just wanna put those off to the side and not deal with ’em? Luckily, it’s far enough in advance. The cars just got issues. We got time now to take care of those issues. We actually got people down there to, they got car handlers and they’re [00:36:00] going through those cars right now to make sure all the cars run, drive, press, fuel.

There’s no issues. They’re taking care of that right now. So G A A actually services, they’ll send somebody to the collection. To make sure all the cars are up and going. Most of the time there’s a person that handles the cars, the stat large of collection. They got a full-time mechanic there. They got people that’s constantly messing with those cars.

So we’re being in correspondence with them. I have, and they’re down there right now as we’re speaking, going through these cars and making sure they’re running, they’re driving. And everything, getting stuff in order as we speak. Now for a collection like that, did it make sense to do an onsite auction at the collection of this house, or is it better just to bring them back to Greensboro?

We’re gonna actually bring everything back to Greensboro, and the reason why is the actual little town he lives in, they don’t have enough of motel rooms, they don’t have enough of parking or anything to be able to do it. We can do it on site if we needed to, but we’ve never had to. So we got 25 tractor and trailers or 25 R [00:37:00] rollbacks there for our regular auction so we can go get the cars.

But I’m assuming there’s a good percentage of cars that just don’t sell. They can’t find new owners. I think you call that the still for sale category. What do y’all do with those? At the end of each cell. There’s anybody that is a registered bidder at the time and some people that ain’t registered bidder.

Some people just in our base, so to speak. We sent out a text at the end of the night that what the bid goes, what we call bid goes off, so they know the cars are still for sale. When the sale was over with on from that Sunday. Two weeks later, I think I sold 14 cars after the sale. Okay. I was, I was the deal doctor then.

So after everything closed, I turned into the deal. Doctor, you’ve touched on this a little bit, the Volkswagen, et cetera. Does GAA take basic consignments? In other words, the consignment process still for sale? In other words, let’s say I want to sell my cars. I don’t wanna go to the auction. Johnny, I, I don’t want to go through that.

Can I just consign it with g aa and you can put it in the Still for Sale Corral? No, we’ll run it and I’ll have you on the [00:38:00] t. I’ll do it all the time. Okay. No doubt. People sends me cars. Every cell has never walked in that building. Got it. Okay. So everything’s gonna go through the auction. Yeah. We’ll go through the auction and I have you on the telephone and a lot of times they could be watching it on their iPad or laptop or regular desk monitor.

And they can watch while I have ’em on the telephone so they can witness everything that’s going on also. So Don brings up a really good point if everything goes through auction and like we talked about before, there’s seller and buyer fees involved in that process. Depending on what you have, if you have something basic, it’s gonna go for what it goes for.

But if you got something quasi interesting, Some of the bidding can get outta control. I mean, we see it all the time, even on the online auctions, like bring a trailer in places like that where you’re like, it went for that much. What are you Crazy. So with prices being so high, why would somebody auction the car rather than do a private sale or go through a broker?

Is there an advantage to going through the auction? I agree, and that’s why I think that bring a trailer has done what they have done. Their [00:39:00] claw tell their base, they have already proven their. That, you know, hey, we could sell these cars just like any other auction house in the United States, and even better on some aspects, especially the low mileage cars they have yielded on the low mileage cars too.

And so a lot of people like that, but there’s still that comradery band that people go in that excitement going to the auction. And no offense. I mean, I love my auction. I think it’s fantastic, and we still sell cars, but there’s a couple auctions that going to Scottsdale every year in January. Phenomenal for me.

I mean, there’s so many people and so many auctions going on every day. I, I started one side of Scottsdale and up on the other side, I try to hit all the auctions every day. It’s like a marathon for me. Same thing when I go to Monterey. Oh my God, son. It’s like it’s breathtaking what goes on out there.

Amelia Island, same way. I mean, these are events that goes on if, if you car lovers. I mean, it’s just like you can’t get [00:40:00] enough of it and how nice everything really is and be able to see some of the. Rare. So the rare cars. Cars that you’ll never be able to see, you lay your eyes on, but you go to Barrett, you got 21,000 registered bidders every day.

Mm-hmm. In one room. One room. Now, I mean, you get a lot of people that you go and bring a trailer, but you don’t have 21,000 bidders in one room. I’m not taking away from sim Me either. I like going to Kissimee. Also, I, I think what Dana Micum done is absolutely extraordinary. He is one of the pioneers of our business also, and they get some of the best numbers matching bill sheets.

They get some of the best cars around and I mean, they know how to do it. They do a fantastic job on what they. I mean, really, I’ve often heard people say that part of the auction experience, as you described it, is you know, that energy in the room and all those people and all that. But I’ve also heard it’s a hassle-free experience.

So how have you guys streamlined the whole buyer seller interaction [00:41:00] process? Most the people that come to the auction and be honest with you are people that’s been in the auction world or been before. You only get that handful of people that’s never been and the ones that’s never been and just kinda lost you Don’t ensure, make sure you put your arm around ’em and you take care of ’em and you don’t leave them hanging out there cause you do not want them to have a bad experience.

Just cause you have I don’t care attitude. You don’t want do that. You want them to have the best. And I tell you what, we have made so many new family. So to speak with these people that you go in. I got a lady, I got seven cars coming. Her husband died. Her husband came to Austin all the time. He’s got seven cars.

She’s never walked in her building. You know what? I went out there. I took all of her pictures, I did all of her paperwork. I walked her through it. I’m picking up her cars for her. She’s coming to the auction. We have a sky box up there. I’m gonna put her up there. We’re going to take care of her.

Everything’s gonna be fine. This is what you gotta do. It’s really a good thing too. I mean, they really appreciate it too. At the end of the day, there’s a lot of new formats [00:42:00] coming around, you know, bring a trailer. Hemmings has gone online. I think people have finally realized, Thanks to technology, this can be kind of easy.

What are some of the benefits of selling online? Are there any or, or does it all revolve around, Hey, let’s go be there? What? What are your thoughts on that? Well, I talk to a guy today down in Florida, his name’s Jonathan from Bullet Motor Sports, and we were talking about selling some cars and he’s been selling some cars on brand trailer.

Now he’s still coming to my auction. He comes and buys a truckload of cars, every sale, and then he does his retail stuff. What he does now, he really, really market his cars. He really, really does a lot of stuff on all your social media stuff, videos of the cars. I mean, he just takes it to a new level. But he still sells a lot of cars on bringer trailer right now and said he is being really good for him.

So it’s another outlet. We have our dates and everybody that’s in the auction business know what our dates are. Let’s just say Mecu. Everybody knows what Mecu dates are and everybody knows what [00:43:00] Barrett dates are and RM and. Broad arrow. These are the guys who, who try to not to step on their toes and be going up against these guys at the same time.

Cause it’s not healthy. Cause you wanna be able to draw all the buyers you can. Do you think those formats are the future or it is just another outlet, but do you think there’s gonna be more growth in that area? The, the online selling buying experience? I think it’s another outlet for selling for dealers.

Some collectors also is using that outlet sore different than like RK Motors in Charlotte where you could take your car and consign it with them and they will sell you a car for you. Streetside plastics, one of them. It’s not an auction house, but there’s another way to sell you a car. If you are individual, you, most dealers don’t take their cars down there and do stuff like that, but for a dealer is another outlet to be able to flip cars, to be able to sell more cars, to be able to buy more cars.

They only have X amount of money anyway to keep generating and keep selling. Where if this month’s running a little slow and you know, you’ve been selling [00:44:00] 20 cars and you only got 12 down and you wanted. What am I gonna do with these cars? How can I sell ’em? Put ’em on Brea trailer. Alright. Alright, so all that said, what’s the future at G aa?

You’re building a new building and back for memorabilia. You’ve got three auctions a year that I know of. You’re doing a specialty auction next year, so that takes it up to four. There’s always room for improvement. We’ve always thrived to be on hands and a lot of personal one-on-one contact with people.

If anyone have any kind of problems, we try to jump right in immediately, take care of any kind of problems they have, which I can’t say we have a whole lot of problems. At this point, you know, we’ve put on a lot of options since 2012, and so we’re getting a lot better than what we normally have. And I mean, the secrets to it all, and I tell anyone, and I didn’t know in 2012 compared to now, it’s all about the car.

If you got the cars, they come. You can have 10,000 cars, but if they’re not what someone wants, it’s enticed them enough to get on that plane from California to fly out [00:45:00] here to buy that car, then you’re not doing your job. Then again, it comes into marketing and so forth from that point to be able to get that out there to everybody.

So, you know, we’ve been doing some stuff here with MAB television. I’m having some stuff recording and been playing later. We are candidly looking forward to going hopefully live in 2023. That’s our next big step, taking it to the big sage. So to be just like everybody else, we’ve come in contact with, uh, every other auction I’ve come in contact with them and I got some friends I’ve made with the Mecu group, with the Barrett Jackson group and been able to ask questions where most people couldn’t, you know, they never started out with the big NBC sports or velocity or whatever, you know, or motor trend.

They already started small, so hopefully that’s what we’re going to do, just like we’ve done in past one step at a time. But it’s coming. It’s coming really big. Then I think the memorabilia is going to be there right across the street right now. There’s another building [00:46:00] it they’ve done and graded. It’s going to be beside the new memorabilia building.

Hopefully, he says it’ll be done by July the fourth. I’m hoping that’s gonna be what we call the event center where we can grow more sponsors and more vendors, just like you were talking, Hey, bring your wife, bring your kids. There’s more stuff for you to be able to do. Hey, I might wanna go over here and buy me a Rolex.

It might be a vendor over there doing that, been able to sell jewelry or that they could go do a little shopping or so to speak, instead of just looking at cars. And then the husband can go look at the cars and buy a car, whatever they wanna do to make it more well-rounded, so to speak. So you could be more family atmosphere for a total package.

That’s the new future. Also, I’m hoping that this event center, that we could do more vendors and be able to hold more cars and display the cars a lot better than the way we display ’em, which is nothing wrong the way we do ’em, but it could be a little bit more dressy or flashier. No, I’ll be terrific.

Yeah, it will be. Aa, you’ve got an auction coming up November three, four, and [00:47:00] five. How many cars are we looking, uh, to expect at that sale? 750. That’s a lot of cars. Yes, sir. Now, is there a large selection of two wheel vehicles coming up that I saw some of those on the website. There was a whole bunch of motorcycles, mini bikes, et cetera.

Uh, is that from a private collection or does G AA always have a lot of motorcycles and bikes for. We always, I got a group of guys that don’t do nothing but dabble in the motorbikes and stuff, and they always provide those for me. They do real well with them now. That’s another thing, like I was telling you about the memorabilia stuff, those Honda seventies and nineties and stuff, they’re insane right now.

They’re, they’re bringing a lot of money. Yeah, they’ve gone crazy. Yeah. A lot of people relate to those, like, you know, I had one of those and I want one back. You know, I won’t buy ’em back. It’s funny when you bring that up, because I’ve got a buddy, we used to restore those. I knew nothing about motorcycles, and he used to drag those things home from the junkyard and you’d get five or six of ’em.

He’d put one bike together and make one great bike. They were [00:48:00] gorgeous. So, yeah. You’re, you’re hitting the nail on the head with that one. With me, I see those bikes and I think, oh man. Back in the olden days, you. Oh yeah. And listen, it’s 3,504 grand and being the rare color ones, you know, you can get up to 7,500 to $10,000.

Right? Yeah. That’s new. That’s nice. It’s been redone to be able to have that and have that in your garage out there around your cars or whatever. Most of these guys are buying ’em up for the November sale, November three, four, and five. Are there any truly significant cars coming up that you remember for that?

Resto mods right now. A lot of the, the new guys that’s buying these cars, you know, they’re not really into the carburetor cars. They’re all into these LS motor cars, so we got quite a bit of resto mods. I got a couple really nice snow MADDs and some COR vests. It’s really, really super nice. It’s going to really rock the house, so to speak.

I got a copo coming and I got a LS six that’s coming as, and both of those cars will be certified through Jeremy Nates. I got a little bit of everything, like you said. [00:49:00] Ferrari’s got some Porsches all the way down to 35 desotos, uh, air cooled, unbelievable, beautiful thirties cars. I got a little bit of everything for everybody.

Obviously we’re talking about classic cars, muscle cars and trucks. Those are the ones that really sell at auction. And you said the word restomod and that got my attention. And there’s been a trend lately of taking these classic cars, these muscle cars and these trucks and turning. Into EVs by retrofitting in Tesla power plants and others.

So I wanted to get your take on this evolution, as we like to call it around here, and how that might change the auction world. I got electric truck, first time I ever sold one. Going to try to sell one R Rivian, whatever. I’m not really up on it, but I got one. Okay. The guy called me and when he called me, I immediately was typing in and watching them see what they were going online.

And then also I told him, hold on a second. Let me make a few phone calls. I called a couple of my buddies. They was like, Johnny, you can’t get ’em. There’s a waiting list like you wouldn’t believe. Crazy not to take it. I said, That’s all I needed [00:50:00] here. Called him back. I, I hooked him right on in. I said, yeah, I gotta have it.

So I got one. I want everybody to watch. Let’s see what it does. I wanna see how much it brings. Well, you know, I’m kind of torn because, you know, the, the lightning trucks, they’re over the top right now. I’m expecting that truck to do real well too. Cause they don’t have no time or no miles on it whatsoever.

I mean, I know everything is trying to go for Green New Deal. Everything’s trying to change. I just don’t know Manam, I really, I don’t think in my world and the most people I talk to that I hang out with, and this in collect car, they got white hair, dude. And they’re not buying it. Okay? They’re discs not buying it.

They love to hear that rumble. They like that pile. They’re not buying it whatsoever. Johnny. Don’t worry. In another 20 years we’ll be auctioning off that vintage Tesla model S You don’t see ’em like this anymore. They’ve still got the original battery pack. Check this thing out. Let’s plug it in. You know?

That’s right. That’s right. I, I hear you buddy. [00:51:00] I hear you. So with. Johnny, I gotta ask you. Any shoutouts promotions or anything else you’d like to share that we didn’t cover thus far? Yes. I would like to have a shout out to our good friend reliable carriers. They’re one of our biggest sponsors. Really good friends of our for the GA team, Dale Wilson.

Really good. Work with you any kind of way. He’ll haul your car anywhere in United States. And uh, also liquid performance. They have all of our cleaning supplies and stuff, and their technology on cleaning and, and auto detailing stuff is phenomenal. And also I want to thank Haggerty Insurance or one of our sponsors also.

They do a ton of stuff with us. There’s another company out there called Navis Pack. They do all of our shipping of all of our memorabilia and so forth, and I want to have a big shout out with them also, and JJ best for the financing that they do for our, all of our financing needs that really help us, really help us out a lot.

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On Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. Well, Johnny, I gotta tell you, I can’t thank enough for coming on and explaining to me especially how the auction world works. And you know, now I know exactly what to do. You’re gonna see me there at a g a [00:53:00] auction in a white suit. My collar pop dark shades on a jordash duffle bag full of cash and my ping pong pallet ready to to bid on the next vehicle coming across that line.

I love it. I can’t wait. I can’t wait. We’re gonna put you up front. Well, again, thank you so much for coming on and telling us all about this. You guys are wonderful. I appreciate it so much, and thank you for having me on tonight. It’s been a awesome time. I really enjoyed it.

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