Break/Fix’s Drive Thru News Episode #67 recaps April’s automotive news and oddities, starting with economic turmoil and fuel changes: extended E15 use, ethanol’s impact on economy, evaporation, water absorption, and rubber seals, plus brake-fluid hygroscopy and the wider impact of diesel shortages on shipping and heating oil. The hosts criticize Volkswagen’s EV strategy (Touareg EV talk, China-only Jetta SUV, ID model struggles, layoffs, potential government aid) while noting nostalgia tie-ins like Hot Wheels R32s. Other topics include Stellantis’ Poissy plant shifting to parts/recycling, a modern Fiat three-wheeler, Morgan’s BMW-powered Supersport pricing, Cadillac Blackwing discontinuation, a C8 Corvette stop-sale over turn-signal software, Toyota RAV4 GR Sport badging, a Pininfarina NSX restomod, Nissan heritage parts, Smart’s new EV concept, Tesla Roadster skepticism, Florida drone speed enforcement, insurance non-payment without collision coverage, a truck climbing a Lamborghini, NASCAR EV plans, Lance Stroll’s GT3 result, sim-racing updates, and a Lemons Focus project update plus upcoming events.
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Show Notes & Supporting Stories
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Domestics

- Buy A Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Before It's Too Late -- Cadillac will reportedly close the order books on the CT4-V Blackwing and the rest of the model line in just a couple of weeks.
- Chevy Corvette Under Stop Sale Because A Software Glitch Might Not Tell Drivers Their Turn Signals Are Out -- (Update: 33,000 Cars Impacted)
EVs & Concepts

- Smart Fortwo returns as premium city car EV with 186-mile range -- Smart returns to its city car roots with tiny new #2, due next year as UK's smallest electric car
Formula One

- Here’s What the New 2026 F1 Regulation Tweaks Really Mean -- Was it really necessary to tweak the F1 regulations after just three races? It's done now, and we'll soon see whether it achieves the intended results.
- Audi Rules Out Christian Horner for F1 Lead
- Binotto Flags Power Unit Weakness for 2026 F1 Season
Japanese & JDM

- Driven: Toyota RAV4 GR Sport – transformed, but not how you think -- It has no extra power and a dull interior, but the supposedly sporty version is the pick of the RAV4 range
- Kia’s New Concept Looks Like a Stinger Reborn for the EV Era -- Kia’s Vision Meta Turismo is starting to look less like a concept and more like a preview of something bigger. The Stinger’s spirit might not be gone after all.
- Pininfarina’s Honda NSX Reboot Is Wider, Lower, Louder, And Absolutely Manual -- Pininfarina and JAS Motorsport's NSX restomod keeps the pop-up lights and adds a naturally aspirated V6 with a stick shift
- Nissan Is Getting Into the Heritage Parts Business, and US Enthusiasts Won’t Be Left Out -- "We won't dabble," Nissan North America's boss told The Drive exclusively, revealing that a motorsports-bred executive is already in place and tasked with bringing heritage parts, restomod kits, and backdating programs to an industrial scale within six to 12 months.
Lost & Found

- We found Tania's next car! -- Say hello to the Beetle RSi, and goodbye to $160k
- 10 reasons why you should Buy a 356 Now
- This Home-Brew Chevy TrailBlazer Convertible Is The Mullet Of Cars
Lower Saxony
Lowered Expectations

- People Used to Play Polo With Cars and It Was as Wildly Dangerous as It Sounds -- There were so many injuries, doctors and nurses were part of the teams.
- This V8 Chevy Truck Runs on Wood and Has Driven 60,000 Miles -- Created as a hobby project, the Fleetside pickup has had no issues whatsoever running on wood chunks alone.
Motorsports

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News

- The Iran War Could End Tomorrow, And The Auto Industry Could Still Lose Over A Million Sales -- Even a quick end to the war won't save 2027 from a significant automotive sales shortfall
- EPA’s Cheaper E15 Gas Plan Could Cost You More Than You Bargained For -- The government’s push to cut pump prices with higher-ethanol fuel may quietly cause more damage than it’s worth.
Stellantis

- Stellantis to halt car assembly at France's Poissy plant by 2029
- Fiat to bring tiny, three-wheeled Tris truck to UK next year -- Fiat Tris micro-truck has handlebar steering, a range of 56 miles and a payload of more than half a tonne
Tesla

- Elon Musk Once Again Teases A Roadster That'll Never Come, But It Doesn't Matter Since Profits Are Up
- Musk Says The Roadster Will Be Tesla’s Last Manually Driven Car, A Fitting Title For A Car Nobody Has Driven -- The second-gen Roadster was unveiled in 2017 and promised for 2020, now its status sits quietly at design development
- Tesla Calls It The Last Best Driver’s Car. Everyone Else Just Calls It Missing -- The elusive Roadster remains stuck in limbo years after its debut, with new promises surfacing while production continues to stall
VAG & Porsche

- Hot Wheels Premium Car Culture 2-Pack 2004 Volkswagen Gold R32 & Volkswagen Golf MK7 -- That's one way to fund the new F1 team 😉 #TakeMyMoney
- Volkswagen considering EV comeback for Touareg SUV -- Sales boss sees a niche for upmarket cars without an overtly premium badge
- Volkswagen Ending Production of ID4 in U.S., Future of EVs Unclear -- Volkswagen Ending Production of ID4 in U.S., Future of EVs Unclear
- Bentley Just Told Us What The Barnato SUV Will Cost, Sort Of -- A debut is scheduled for later this year and a teaser campaign is likely coming relatively soon
- China Is Getting A Jetta SUV For Less Than A Used Corolla Costs In America -- Volkswagen revealed four new models in Beijing, including a Jetta electric SUV concept with a rumored price under $15,000
- Volkswagen Cuts Another 1 Million Cars as Job Losses Loom -- Volkswagen is slashing another million units of capacity as demand falters, costs rise, and job cuts loom across its global operations.
Track Side Report

The Unfocused Performance Lemons Focus is finally starting to look like a race car—well, a race car with ADHD. We’ve installed new motor mounts and a fresh clutch, because with 237,000 miles and an “unknown history,” we figured it’d be smart to avoid spending our first 20 minutes of the race stranded on the side of the track. The brakes and tires are next on the list, and the car’s still waiting for its full Lemons-grade decoration treatment. If you’ve got artistic flair, spare parts, or even a few bucks to toss our way, we’d appreciate it—this chaos gets expensive fast.
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Our debut race has shifted from Mid‑Ohio to the Real Hoopties of New Jersey 2026 at New Jersey Motorsports Park, June 5–7. We’ve got drivers committed, a car that’s almost ready, and a paddock that’s always open. Spectating at Lemons events is free (we think), and it’s absolutely worth it—imagine 100+ cars starting on a 2.5‑mile track in glorious, noisy disorder. Brad won’t make this one, but he’s suiting up for October and eyeing Road Atlanta in December to close out the season. The design’s still “blurry,” but that’s fitting—after all, we’re Unfocused Performance.

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TRANSCRIPT
Executive Producer Tania: [00:00:00] Welcome to Break Fixes, Drive-Through News, your monthly recap for everything fast, fascinating, and usually four wheeled. We’re serving up a fresh batch of automotive headlines, motorsports madness, and car adjacent curiosities, all with zero wait time and maximum flavor from Formula One, drama to concept car debuts with Garage built legends.
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Crew Chief Brad: Let’s see. This is April. Hello and welcome to Drive through episode number 67.
We
Crew Chief Eric: don’t do that anymore.
Executive Producer Tania: Oh, I’m sorry. I thought this was a podcast where we don’t say anything.
Crew Chief Brad: You’re killing it. You’re killing it right now, Tanya. You’re doing so good. I’m so proud of you.
Crew Chief Eric: We don’t have a formal showcase, but I don’t know what should we label this because the headline read. The word war.
You know, we have department of war [00:01:00] now, the war and the war, but it’s not a war. It’s a conflict. But then I heard there was another way to describe it. Isn’t that right Tanya?
Executive Producer Tania: An excursion.
Crew Chief Eric: We’re going on an excursion to the desert apparently.
Crew Chief Brad: I see what Eric’s talking about. The war. The war.
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t think we’re quite there yet.
No. I feel like it’s just a bunch of the do moments here and I’m gonna just come out swinging. This is comes from car scoops, right? The Iran War War. Again, excursion, conflict, whatever adjective you want to use to describe it could end tomorrow and the auto sales industry will still lose. A million sales.
Executive Producer Tania: It’s been ending tomorrow for about three weeks, I think.
Crew Chief Eric: I mean, yes, we’re in the middle of like the most economic turmoil ever. Who’s gonna run out and go buy a supercar?
Crew Chief Brad: YouTubers, Instagram influencers, tiktoks.
Crew Chief Eric: None of the rich and powerful Middle Eastern are gonna buy a [00:02:00] supercar right now. I think they’re a little busy.
Wouldn’t you say what kind, what, what is this reporting? What, what is this stuff? Uh, but no, in in seriousness though, another side effect of all of this that’s going on, and I think this next one was brought to light even before the excursion started, which was the dilution of our fuel to maintain the E 15 that we use in the winter throughout all of May as we head into the hotter days.
And Tanya, I know you’ve been out of the business for a while, but can you explain what this means and like how this actually works? Because I think it’s important for us to discuss.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, it means poor fuel economy.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, why is that? Because I don’t think a lot of people understand what the E 10, E 20 E 15 actually means.
I’ll put it in layman’s terms. That’s a percentage of alcohol that’s in mixed,
Executive Producer Tania: it’s a percentage of ethanol. So the 10 is 10%. 15 is 15%. Although, so it’s really meant to be an octane booster ’cause it has a higher octane number. So it’s good if you’re [00:03:00] trying to prevent engine knocking or something, but doesn’t have as much combustion capability, I guess to put it simply as gasoline does.
So you’re not actually getting as good a fuel economy than if you’re using straight gasoline. So depending on what they’re pricing it at, you’re not actually saving anything. If they keep the price at $5 a gallon and now it’s more ethanol and you’re getting worse fuel economy, then you’re going to the pump quicker.
Crew Chief Eric: So the rule of thumb I heard in racing was. It takes twice the amount of alcohol to make the same power as gasoline. Right? I mean, that’s probably a stretch.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, they say it’s like 30% less energy per gallon than gasoline, so I mean, that’s not insignificant.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: But the bigger problem with extending it into the hotter months, the way I understood it, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that it tends to evaporate quicker.
In the hotter days, especially when the car heats up and the tank heats up and we have all these evap systems that let the fumes escape. [00:04:00] So basically your tank is emptying itself as the alcohol evaporates out of the fuel.
Executive Producer Tania: Yes, and it also has a problem that ethanol will absorb water from the air. So it’s particularly bad.
I mean, maybe that’s less impactful if you’re constantly using your carb. That’s why they say it’s not good to leave ethanol or fuels with ethanol like in a lawnmower that you button up for the winter or some other piece of equipment that that you don’t use. Or even a car if you’ve got a garage queen that you don’t drive very often because the ethanol actually absorb water and now you’re gonna have water and then it’ll separate and you’ll have a water phase and then a fuel phase.
And obviously that’s no good when you go to go combust.
Crew Chief Eric: Chemical term for that is hydroscopic. Is that right?
Executive Producer Tania: That it likes water
Crew Chief Eric: or hydroscopic? I can’t remember. Remember. I wasn’t very good at chemistry.
Crew Chief Brad: I think it’s called bend over and Open your wallet.
Executive Producer Tania: Yeah, I grow scopic.
Crew Chief Eric: And the reason I bring that up is because brake fluid [00:05:00] suffers the same problem.
And I don’t think a lot of people realize that if you go too long on your brake fluid and don’t flush those fluids out, you end up with water concentrated in your brake fluid. And there’s tests where it, there’s like these litmus sticks. You can stick in there to see, you know, the potency of your brake fluid.
But realistically, Brad, you just went through this on your tundra changing brakes and it’s like, well what about the brake fluid?
Crew Chief Brad: Thankfully I changed the brake fluid over the, the winter when I had my inspection done because it was on my list of fluids to change just in the maintenance schedule. The breaks themselves were not, but the fluid was so, yeah.
Um, but yeah, you’re, you’re right. And it’s probably, I’m assuming it would mean the same thing for like clutch fluid and trans, well, probably not transmission fluid ’cause that’s always moving, but
Crew Chief Eric: that’s hydraulic fluid. So it’s different.
Executive Producer Tania: Yeah. I mean the other bad thing is ethanol is and alcohol. What does alcohol like to do to things?
Crew Chief Brad: Make ’em drunk.
Executive Producer Tania: Make it what? Make it drunk.
Crew Chief Brad: Our cars all need to go to AA now. There [00:06:00]
Executive Producer Tania: you go. Alcohol, things like that aren’t usually good on rubber parts.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Dries out rubber. So all your seals, all your hoses, all that stuff.
Crew Chief Brad: I don’t need dried out hose,
Crew Chief Eric: which is particularly important when you’re talking about classic cars.
Especially cars pre 1980. I mean, they run on the newer fuels as long as you burn through ’em. But to your point, Tanya, if they sit for extended periods of time, you’re risking damaging something in the system that could be catastrophic and extremely expensive.
Executive Producer Tania: Yeah. I mean, not only, I mean, they’re probably more prone to dissolve rubber, which would be even worse.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.
Executive Producer Tania: And so, I mean, that’s why, again, I think it’s not recommended for motors, whether it’s a lawnmower or a boat even that sits. For a long time, or your garage queen.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, and the reason I wanted to bring it up and talk about it as an important thing is car show season is upon us. People are taking ’em out.
They’re cleaning [00:07:00] them up. They’re filling them up after sitting over the winter, and they might not be thinking about the amount of alcohol for ethanol that’s in fuel right now. And if you’re getting a higher dosage, you know, upwards of 20% at some of the stations, then you only take it to a car, show a couple miles away or whatever, and then you let it sit for the rest of the summer, you’re gonna be in deep trouble come the fall.
Executive Producer Tania: Honestly, I had that thought when I heard that and I was like, man, I really need to stretch the legs on the gt. But I’m like, I probably need to add fuel to it. Well, I guess I’m not gonna add fuel now ’cause it sits for a pretty long time and I don’t wanna put that in the tank.
Crew Chief Brad: You just need to run out to the track and get some from Summit Point.
Or I can bring some up from I stop. I can stop easily Stop by, uh, dominion.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Get some a hundred octane or 110 race fuel. That is the option for a lot of cars.
Crew Chief Brad: You’d give it the old Italian tuneup?
Crew Chief Eric: Hell yeah. Yeah. A hundred octane At a hundred mile an hour. Let’s go. It clears out all the carbon.
Crew Chief Brad: It’ll, it’ll give that car [00:08:00] what?
115 horsepower?
Executive Producer Tania: That 110? I’ll have 111.
Crew Chief Brad: I will say there was a, a Wawa, I think it was at the Wawa down the road where they gave me the option for ethanol free gasoline.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, so they just built a new sheet up here too, and they have all the colors of the rainbow as we like to refer to ’em. ’cause sheets, colors. They’re fuel pumps. So you know, red is this and Diesel’s green.
And the blue fuel is the Flex fuel ydi. And not all of them have it. The ones in Pennsylvania for sure have the, all the colors of the rainbow. And they have an orange, which is an ethanol free, it’s not quite like a hundred octane, but it’s designed for the older cars that can’t run, you know, between 10 and E 15 and all that kind of stuff.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. I think the, the Wawa had a black one for the ethanol free, a green one for diesel, and then some other rando color for, or maybe it was yellow or something, I don’t know, whatever. Right. But they, they, they kind of had it color coded as [00:09:00] well. I was like, Hmm. Not too often that you see ethanol free fuel these days.
Crew Chief Eric: And this is all a result too, of, you know, the petroleum situation that we’re in right now. But more importantly, there was another article that was again, sort of like a de do moment in that diesel production has always been stifled, especially in this country. And it’s down right now on top of everything else, which is why you’re seeing the price of diesel escalate so much faster than gasoline.
And people might be listening to this and saying, who cares? I don’t have anything diesel. I don’t care about diesel. Well, do you care about the packages being delivered from Amazon, from UPS? ’cause all those are diesels and the trains that move them across the country, those are diesels and the semi trucks that moved them from the trains to the Walmart.
Those are diesels and a lot of generators and construction equipment. Diesel, diesel, diesel. And to make it even worse, there’s a lot of people out there that heat their homes on home heating oil, also known as wet folks, [00:10:00]
Crew Chief Brad: diesel.
Crew Chief Eric: Diesel. Exactly.
Crew Chief Brad: The good thing about that is at least we’re heading into the warmer months, right?
At least we’re a lot of the country. So it, those people should see. I don’t know if they’d see relief, but it shouldn’t see it escalate as much as they normally would if we were heading in the winter.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. And I, I think the timing was like just right, that it started to escalate, you know, and start to accelerate really hard as we were coming out of the colder months.
’cause can you imagine filling 2, 3, 5, 700 gallons of diesel? You know, some people have massive tanks to heat their houses and their buildings and stuff. At $6 a gallon, that’s the street price for what you pump into your Cummins Dodge Ram diesel. Right. But when you pay for home heating oil, add another 30 cents a gallon or to 50 cents a gallon on top of that, it is.
Bonkers, expensive. So diesel is a crucial part of the world and also the world economy. You know, we don’t talk about [00:11:00] Dieselgate too much anymore. Not not a ton of people running around in diesel cars, but there’s still a ton of diesel that moves the world. It’s absolutely incredible. So I’m hoping that we’ll see the prices come back down.
But if they don’t, I mean, good night.
Crew Chief Brad: I guess we’ll have to start like. Now that wouldn’t even help anyway. I was gonna say start shopping at Brick and Mortars. But they still need to get their supplies from senior. Correct? Correct. Like either way, there’s no way to avoid it.
Crew Chief Eric: Drones, ev drones, that’s what it is.
Just we’re gonna deliver. See, Amazon’s gonna make it a reality. That’s, they said they would, but that’s just it. Brad, your point about shopping and and needing stuff and the way we buy things just in time and order it online and have it show up the next day. Think about this though. We’re getting nailed still with tariffs.
They haven’t gone away and now we have this diesel crisis on the other side. The cost of everything is going to triple and that’s going to have a effect on everything to include the car community. So the next time you need to go buy something simple like, oh, I don’t know, oil filters or brake pads.
Don’t [00:12:00] be surprised when it used to cost 20 bucks and now it’s 200. I’m not saying that’s a good thing, but I don’t know. Let’s talk about something a little bit nicer. Maybe not so much. ’cause these folks are crazy. Volkswagen, Porsche and Audi News. So I’m just gonna, I’m gonna read this Volkswagen’s considering an EV comeback for the Tore, so now I’m confused.
’cause they have the atlas which replaced the Tore and the Tiguan is the size of the old tore got re badged and there’s a whole bunch of badge engineering there. But aside all that, I have to say if this rendering is right, this might be, and I’m gonna put asterisk and air quotes around this. This might be the best looking VW in the last 10 years.
Tell me I’m wrong.
Executive Producer Tania: No, that was the first thing I thought. I was like, wow, that’s actually not terrible looking.
Crew Chief Eric: Right. It looks like the SUVs of 10 plus years ago, which were actually quite handsomely styled. This is proportioned. It doesn’t have any dumb lines.
Crew Chief Brad: You said [00:13:00] SUVs of 10 years ago. You mean like the tore
Crew Chief Eric: Shush.
You shush. I mean, they only show it from the front threequarter angle, but I like it. I don’t like it as an ev, but I like it. And I don’t wanna say I’m not sold on EVs ’cause I get it. I’m not sold on Volkswagen doing EVs. They do not have a good track record at this point, and I’m just considering their sales numbers.
I don’t wanna talk about reliability or recalls or anything like that. I just, I don’t get it.
Crew Chief Brad: Anybody that would buy a brand new Volkswagen right now is a moron. Just, just putting it out there. Just that it’s putting that out there into the universe. Anybody that buys a new Volkswagen right now is a,
Crew Chief Eric: here’s the kicker about this article.
Okay. More so than the design, which caught my attention. It’s this one line. In the article it says, the new sales boss, Martin Sander at VW has said there remains a gap in the market for upmarket cars that don’t carry a premium [00:14:00] badge, which the to reg and the Fon, which was discontinued in 2016, were designed to serve.
And I said, really? Really,
Executive Producer Tania: here’s the bigger question. Why are they bothering doing this? What EV do they have right now that’s actually doing well?
Crew Chief Eric: Well, the ID buzz got killed.
Executive Producer Tania: Yeah, the ID four got killed.
Crew Chief Eric: I heard that too.
Executive Producer Tania: So what, which one is doing, you’ve already lost twice. Three times the charm.
Crew Chief Eric: And we’re not counting the Porsche stuff that they’re backpedaling on.
Like they canceled the McCann ev, they’re pulling back on the Tacan ’cause they took a bath on that. So that’s two more right there. Not counting stuff that they probably sold in Europe that we never saw, like the ID three and all that.
Crew Chief Brad: My guess is the ID buzz and the ID four were a little too out there when it came to styling and design.
And this is more [00:15:00] in line with just like a normal looking S-U-V-I-I. I’m not saying that they’re right, I just, this is where I think their thinking is.
Executive Producer Tania: I could follow your argument with the van that that was too much. Like people aren’t,
Crew Chief Eric: it was too expensive. It wasn’t too out there. It looked
Crew Chief Brad: like it. It was definitely too expensive.
It was definitely
Executive Producer Tania: too expensive and it has the cost price to it, but I don’t think the ID four was so wildly styled that it should have deterred anyone. If anything, maybe it was too small for people.
Crew Chief Eric: Yes,
Executive Producer Tania: but does anybody really need a electric toric?
Crew Chief Brad: I can see the ID four being too small for some people.
I can, I can see that
Crew Chief Eric: this is the General Motors problem. VW has somehow usurped the way they’ve done business because we joked about this and GM is really not in the news right now. Like we made fun of them. Like, I don’t know how many drive-throughs ago. Like it’s general morons over there. Right? They don’t know what they’re doing.
They’re always 10 years behind. They’re [00:16:00] trying to catch up with everybody else, and by the time everybody else pivots, they’re like, we’re, where? Where’d the party go, guys? I thought we were, you thought we were jamming out here? This statement that the Toag and the Fon, but we need to fill a premium. That’s what Audi is for and beyond Audi.
That’s what Porsche’s for. And then, oh wait, they own Bentley. So if we wanna go premium prestige, luxury models, why don’t we build an Evie Benga or whatever that thing is called right now. There is a new Bentley coming, the Bentley, uh, the Barnato sounds like Bono from Formula one. The barnacle. Yeah, the barnacle.
Like it looks like a barnacle. This thing is horrendous. But the point is, it’s like, why are we wasting the time? Everybody said when the Fon came out, nobody’s gonna spend a hundred thousand dollars on a re badged steel framed a eight. And guess what? Nobody wasted a hundred thousand dollars on a steel framed a eight.
It was pointless. So we’re gonna repeat [00:17:00] the mistakes of the past Volkswagen. Get out of your own head.
Crew Chief Brad: Like they’re delusional. They’re totally delusional. They have no idea what they’re doing. They don’t listen to the consumer.
Crew Chief Eric: No. Hell no. Hell no. I saw spy photos of the new golf, the Mark nine, I guess you know, the ninth generation.
It’s even bigger. If you can imagine. It’s gonna be a Tiguan by the time it’s on. The golf keeps getting bigger and uglier. It has this funky front end. It looks like a Kia. You know the one with the wraparound front light that goes from like one end to the other. I was like, this is the future of the golf.
Really. Like you guys are out of, you’ve lost touch with reality. Like what are you doing? So now we got this Bentley built on top of the Q five, which that is a useless market too. Who’s gonna buy a cheap Bentley? So this is again, the game, right? Like in the GM paradigm where it’s like, we’re gonna make a Chevy that’s better than a Cadillac.
Just sell a Cadillac as your premium model and Chevy’s your base. Volkswagen is the base. [00:18:00] Model in the equation here in the United States for this family, but we’re gonna try to do a bargain basement Bentley. So they spent all the tooling, the research and the stuff to build on top of this Audi. It looks terrible and nobody’s gonna buy it.
Crew Chief Brad: I’m gonna throw down a challenge.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh boy. Here we go
Crew Chief Brad: for the show. Do you think we could do a season?
Crew Chief Eric: No.
Crew Chief Brad: You know where I’m going, don’t you,
Crew Chief Eric: without talking about Volkswagen. It’s impossible.
Crew Chief Brad: Without talking about Volkswagen.
Crew Chief Eric: No, we did it with Tesla. We gave up Tesla for a year
Crew Chief Brad: and we did it without BMW. But they made it easy.
Crew Chief Eric: It’s impossible because if you look at this next article, it, it’s stuff like this that makes you beat your head up against the wall. China is getting a Jetta. A Jetta, SUV. Drop the mic. Folks. Talk about badge engineering, bad badge engineering. This looks terrible too.
Crew Chief Brad: Well, it’s another car. It looks like they’re just rebadging.
Another car.
Crew Chief Eric: The Jetta X, they call it [00:19:00]
Crew Chief Brad: the Jet X,
Crew Chief Eric: also known as the id. Aura. T six S. UV. Not to be confused with the id. Unix oh nine. What?
Crew Chief Brad: What about the The id? Linux?
Crew Chief Eric: Dude, this is ter. This is the kind of stuff I don’t understand. And then Volkswagen’s going after the Chinese market. They’re up against BYD.
Porsche has already lost their ass in China, so we’re gonna try with this. This is what they want. Really, I don’t know. Electric, SUV. Ugh. But that’s okay because Volkswagen, not only are they getting rid of the ID four, as Tanya mentioned, they’re scaling down production capacity by a million. Cars and layoffs are imminent, so they’re in good shape.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, I guess the, they gotta hit rock bottom before and they can rise from the ashes. I don’t know,
Crew Chief Brad: before they hit rock bottomer.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, formula One’s gonna bring them there. Again, this is all to pay for [00:20:00] Formula One. I’m telling you, there’s no other way to do it.
Crew Chief Brad: So when do we start seeing. Volkswagen sell off pieces of the company.
Like what’s the, the brand in Spain and
Crew Chief Eric: Sayat.
Crew Chief Brad: Sayat do, do they own Sayat? Yeah. Like what if they sell off pieces? What if they sell off Sayat? What if they sell off Audi? God forbid they sell off Porsche. They sell off Bentley to somebody else. I mean, well that’s coming next. There has to be,
Crew Chief Eric: I think you’re right.
They’ll scuttle the stuff that just doesn’t sell. That’ll all end up at JLR or something like that. Yeah, especially Bentley. Like all the Bri, the British bands. The British. The British bands. That’s what I really meant to say. They wanna get back together. The bands wanna get back together. The Jags and the Bentleys and the Rolls Royces.
Right? They don’t need to be owned by the Germans anymore.
Crew Chief Brad: No. They go to, they go to India.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, a hundred.
Executive Producer Tania: There’s a G. If they get rid of all those, they get rid of all those. Then what do they become?
Crew Chief Eric: Volkswagen?
Executive Producer Tania: Nobody’s gonna pay [00:21:00] $50,000 for a golf. Because that’s their problem right now. So they don’t solve a problem if they’re gonna keep doing what they do, but just divest the other brands.
People don’t care. People don’t realize that it’s Audi, Porsche, Volkswagen. So if nobody’s buying a $50,000 golf today with the trifecta, they’re not gonna buy it tomorrow when they’re by themselves.
Crew Chief Brad: You, you and I understand that If it was me doing it, I would sell those off and completely redo Volkswagen from the ground up and
Crew Chief Eric: yeah,
Crew Chief Brad: start listening to the consumer and selling vehicles that people actually wanna buy at prices that consumers can actually afford and start over.
Basically,
Crew Chief Eric: I, I think Brad’s point is a little less General Motors and a little more Toyota is what they need right now.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. Because the only reason, well, to me, the only reason General Motors is still around is because we bailed them out.
Crew Chief Eric: There is that too.
Crew Chief Brad: Is the German government gonna come and bail out Volkswagen?
Crew Chief Eric: I have to dig into that, but people have told me that there [00:22:00] is something between the Porsche Mafia that runs all that and the German state, they are involved. It’s sort of like too big to fail type of situation.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, of course they are. I mean it’s the same thing with isn’t Renault owned by the French government?
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah,
Crew Chief Brad: to an extent. Or something like is owned by the public, like the French public.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.
Executive Producer Tania: Volkswagen is facing a 44% profit. Crash driven government in the state of Lower Saxony are discussing measures to aid the firm driven by the need to protect German jobs and industrial sector.
Crew Chief Eric: Say too big to fail.
Executive Producer Tania: As part of its crisis management, Volkswagen is considering slashing up to 30 to 50,000 jobs
Crew Chief Eric: by getting rid of Betley.
Crew Chief Brad: How does that help? So, so is this one of the situations where they’re prying wolf trying to force the government to come in and step in and help to save those 50,000 jobs?
Crew Chief Eric: No. See, but they didn’t tell you where they’re gonna cut the 50,000 jobs.
Crew Chief Brad: Oh, they’re gonna cut ’em in the us.
Crew Chief Eric: Exactly. You [00:23:00] got it. The Tennessee factory will get shut down before they’ll shut down one.
Well, they’ve already shut down a couple of factories in Europe. ’cause we talked about that already. But the thing is, they’re gonna cut the labor force from other places where it doesn’t make sense.
Executive Producer Tania: Yeah. Well, Chattanooga already shut down because they’re stopping. Id buzz. Well at least that production line.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, all three of them that they made there. Yeah,
Executive Producer Tania: pretty much.
Crew Chief Eric: But they can also cut their factories in South America and Mexico. ’cause vehicles are still produced there.
Crew Chief Brad: Those governments wouldn’t step in and help. I’m sure Volkswagen has lobbyists on Capitol Hill right now trying to say, Hey, we’re getting ready to cut these 50,000 jobs.
The economy’s already strained. Why don’t you go ahead and kick a little bit of bailout money out the way and see, you know, if we, we can keep these jobs going
Crew Chief Eric: about that. All that.
Crew Chief Brad: It’s all a far, it’s all a far
Crew Chief Eric: and then we talked about last month how they’re building munitions or something now too, to try to diversify their engineering portfolio.
So it’s like, all right, whatever to aid the, um,
Crew Chief Brad: the losing F1 team.
Crew Chief Eric: Well that and what, what did we call the excursion? The excursion.
Crew Chief Brad: The excursion.
Crew Chief Eric: But you know, they, they [00:24:00] have taken other avenues to try to shore up their pocketbooks, right? Tanya? They’ve gotten in bed with
Executive Producer Tania: Hot Wheels.
Crew Chief Brad: They’re tugging at the nostalgia heartstrings.
Crew Chief Eric: They are, you know, at 15 bucks a pop for two hot Wheels in this special premium collection pack. But you know what this says, you know what? Cars aren’t in this bubble pack? It’s not an ID buzz. It’s not an ID four. It’s not this Jetta X thing. It’s not the benga or the take hand.
It’s the R 30 twos. The last real enthusiast Volkswagens that they made, whether the R, the second gen R 30 twos sold well or not doesn’t really matter. But the point is these are the cars we wanted. Yeah. And it does pull up the nostalgia strings, like you said, Brad, but they need to go back to building cars like this.
Crew Chief Brad: That’s what I’m saying. Like it to fix Volkswagen, they need to go back to what Volkswagen did best, and they were their best in the late nineties and early two thousands.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, they had finally figured it out and then after that it was like all downhill [00:25:00] race to the bottom. But that’s okay, because you know what?
Sometimes when you visit other companies, you realize how good you got it. So when Volkswagen looks over the fence and says. What’s going on over there? Stellantis. They feel good about themselves. It’s getting weird. It’s stellantis.
Crew Chief Brad: Can, can you pronounce this plant name for me because I’m, I, it it’s pronounced in a certain way in my head and I think it’s wrong, so I don’t wanna say it.
Crew Chief Eric: It’s French.
Crew Chief Brad: I, I I understand.
Crew Chief Eric: And the way I understand the non phonetic pronunciation. ’cause you gotta remember French, like half the letters are silent or they have a different tonality. So I asked my wife, ’cause she speaks French, it’s poi
Crew Chief Brad: That’s pretty close to what I was thinking.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, I knew what you were thinking.
But that is not correct.
Crew Chief Brad: Are are the, the people that work there, a bunch of, of PWAs,
Crew Chief Eric: well, they’re not working there anymore because they’re gonna stop making cars in the [00:26:00] French Stellantis factory and they’re gonna shift to parts and recycling. You might say, who cares? You know, it’s another factory that’s shutting its doors, so be it.
There’s a couple important things about the POI factory and that is that Chrysler has been using that plant since the 1940s,
Crew Chief Brad: that that’s an old poi.
Crew Chief Eric: Now, in terms of the cars that are, that are sold there, or were, I’m sorry, that were built there. That’s the Citra and DS three. That’s the hot hatch. So I’m a little sad about that ’cause that means that car’s not getting built.
Along with the Opal Mocca, CUV, which would be better known to a lot of people in the United States as the Buick Enclave. Not really sad about that going away. I think the sadder part is that it’s a piece of history. Oddly enough, this particular article, which you can find in our show notes, was brought to me by a member of this society of automotive historians, and so they were talking about how the plant is even older than when Chrysler took it over in the forties.
It was [00:27:00] used by Ford, it was used by other people. It’s been around for over a hundred years in automotive production, so it’s sort of living on. But no more cars will be rolling out the doors of the POI factory.
Crew Chief Brad: That’s what I was just about to say. So it, it looks like it’s, it’s not shutting down completely, it’s just being retooled.
Correct. So at least from a economic standpoint, from a job standpoint, like they’re, they’ll probably cut some of the workforce, but not all of it.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. It’s sort of like Willy Wonka when the guy used to put the caps on the toothpaste. Now he fixes the robots that puts the caps on the toothpaste. It’s that sort of situation, you know what I mean?
Crew Chief Brad: Very nice. Very nice.
Crew Chief Eric: You like that analogy. It’s a good one.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: Meanwhile, in, in other parts of STIs, Fiat is going back to its roots. Look at this thing, Tanya.
Executive Producer Tania: Mm.
Crew Chief Eric: This is the trees.
Executive Producer Tania: How delightful.
Crew Chief Eric: I mean, that looks like an ape. If I ever saw one, Italy was littered with these three wheeled tiny delivery trucks for the longest time.
And then, then they were made by [00:28:00] piaggio, which is the same people that the Vespa and all that stuff. So they had the ape. But they’re bringing it back. It’s very modern. That’s pretty nice. And if it’s an ev, it’s perfect.
Executive Producer Tania: It’s pretty nice.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.
Crew Chief Brad: Could haul a decent amount of mulch in that truck too.
Executive Producer Tania: You could actually,
Crew Chief Eric: maybe more than that.
Dodge we saw the other day
Executive Producer Tania: more than a cyber truck.
Crew Chief Eric: As we continue discussing lower Saxon A, it’s not really BMW, so I figured you were okay with it. It’s BM BMW adjacent
Crew Chief Brad: because it’s powered by BMW
Crew Chief Eric: and it’s got A BMW drivetrain.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah,
Crew Chief Eric: so Morgan has revealed the new super sport 400.
Crew Chief Brad: I’ve got a question.
Crew Chief Eric: Uhhuh,
Crew Chief Brad: who buys these?
Crew Chief Eric: Right?
Crew Chief Brad: They’re just so ugly.
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t know if ugly is the right term. They’re very classic. They have not deviated far from their original form, that’s for sure. I think these are probably a hoot to drive, probably more fun to drive than a cater, because there’s a little bit more substance to the car.
But the problem is the price. [00:29:00] I mean, you’re getting kind of a really expensive Z four
Crew Chief Brad: that’s made of wood.
Crew Chief Eric: I mean, that’s for lightness and not rigidity.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, because if any, whenever I think of wood. I think of lightness. Not say like an aluminum space frame or carbon fiber or anything like that.
Crew Chief Eric: Why use aluminum when you can cut down tree?
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, we don’t need to breathe.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, that’s okay because they won’t sell too many of ’em at the starting price of just over $152,000. If you can fit the thing like a tight leather shoe, it is small.
Crew Chief Brad: Well, you know who’s already got an order for one? I guarantee it is. Uh, Richard Hammond.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, yeah, because they fit the car around him, like he’s one of the few people that can drive it.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: Did you notice the wheels though?
Executive Producer Tania: They look Porsche wheels.
Crew Chief Brad: Oh yeah, I see.
Crew Chief Eric: There you go, Tanya. Got it. They look like the roof wheels from the eighties.
Crew Chief Brad: They’re nice.
Crew Chief Eric: Doesn’t suit the body style though.
Crew Chief Brad: It doesn’t, but I don’t know any wheels that would suit this body style. The body style doesn’t suit the body style.
Crew Chief Eric: Chariot wheels like [00:30:00] on a Conestoga wagon, that might work.
Crew Chief Brad: Exactly. This car needs to be pulled by a horse.
Executive Producer Tania: Of course.
Crew Chief Eric: You know, Brad, ask and thou Sht receive. We have not talked about General Motors in quite a long time, but I found a piece of General Motors news and it’s yet another swift and well thought out decision on their part.
The CT four and CT five black wings are going
FLORIDA MAN: sad
Crew Chief Eric: and you’re a hundred percent right. And you know why it’s sad? Because these are really the tail end of the manual transmission V eight, fire breathing sports saloons like we all loved and cherished over the years. And this is it. Once these are gone, what’s left?
What can you buy with a V eight with four doors and a stick shift?
Executive Producer Tania: Uh, Dodge Dart.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s a four cylinder
Crew Chief Brad: 16.
Executive Producer Tania: I know, I know.
Crew Chief Eric: So much like the jokes about Volkswagen is this because Cadillac has [00:31:00] to pay for their failing F1 program. Because in my mind, these are the cars you keep around to try to get people excited about your racing program.
Crew Chief Brad: I was just about to say like, and, and you don’t have to have like a whole fleet of them. Like you don’t need. Well, we’ll, we’ll take BMW for example, right? You don’t need an, you don’t need an M, everything in the fricking lineup, but one or two or even 3M cars to entice people to come in and they may not be able to afford an M five, but they can probably afford a regular five series, and it makes ’em feel just as cool.
Like you need these cars to excite people about the brand. Volkswagen has killed off basically all of theirs.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah,
Crew Chief Brad: they say nothing. Looks like GM is doing the same thing with Cadillac. But gm, at least for as far as I can see into the future, which is not very far, they have the Corvette, so they’ll always have the Corvette that entices people to come back to gm.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, let’s put a pin in that [00:32:00] Corvette thing for a
Crew Chief Brad: minute. Oh, did you? Are you gonna, are we gonna talk about the recall? Isn’t there a recall that just happened?
Crew Chief Eric: Oh yeah, there is. Since you brought it up, we might as well go there. They have stopped production on the C eight Corvette.
Executive Producer Tania: Why? What now? Do they light on fire again?
When you fill them with fuel?
Crew Chief Brad: It’s something super silly.
Executive Producer Tania: The hoods come open.
Crew Chief Brad: No, it’s, it is like silly as in like it’s, if I remember correctly, I don’t even think it really warrants a recall, but I could be wrong.
Crew Chief Eric: Chevy Corvette under stop sale. Because software glitch might not tell drivers that their turn signals are out.
Crew Chief Brad: Yes. What that is, who cares? That is such, yeah, that, who cares that? So let’s take the BM BMW approach. Let’s do the, who cares Your freaking turn signals out. So effing what?
Crew Chief Eric: That was the first thing I thought when I saw this was like, do Corvette people even use their turn signals? Like
Executive Producer Tania: Exactly.
Crew Chief Eric: Sort of the Enzo Ferrari thing.
Like what’s behind you? Doesn’t matter guys. I mean, we’re doing like mock two. So who cares? Turns
Crew Chief Brad: you getting the, the, the Corvette owners are doing sub [00:33:00] speed limit.
Crew Chief Eric: Well
Crew Chief Brad: the ones I, the ones I always end up getting behind ’cause they’re like 80 years old and they can finally afford their dream car.
Crew Chief Eric: Those are the C seven drivers.
Now you see ’cause C eight drivers. Those are the TED dbi million dollar man, hairy man, spaghetti wide, open collar. These are the C eight drivers. Okay, got it. Got. These are the guys at their peak earning potential. They wanted a sports car and couldn’t buy a Porsche, so they bought a Corvette instead.
That’s the demographic, the the respectable Corvette owner, they’re buying the old stuff.
Crew Chief Brad: Got it, got it.
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t think c eights come with a pair of new balances. They might come with Jorts like, but they don’t come with New Balance.
Crew Chief Brad: They come with new balance driving shoes, new balance, lrs,
Crew Chief Eric: what a terrible, terrible recall.
That’s the silliest C eight recall, yet it’s had some dumb recalls, but this one takes the cake.
Crew Chief Brad: I understand having a recall, but a, a stop sale,
Crew Chief Eric: right.
Crew Chief Brad: For a software update
Crew Chief Eric: that you do over the air.
Executive Producer Tania: It’s important that your turn signals work, but they’re brand new cars. Like, [00:34:00] are the turn signals failing immediately?
Like that should be like a. 10 years from now problem.
Crew Chief Brad: Are they using Philips bulbs?
Executive Producer Tania: I don’t know if I’ve ever changed a turn signal, light bulb.
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t think I have either. You change headlight bulbs, brake light bulbs, but turn signal. Nah.
Crew Chief Brad: You know what the problem is? This is some stupid government regulation that says it needs to blink about 5,000 times a second when your turn signal’s out.
So you know your turn signal’s out. Although it’s still blinking. So is it technically out,
Crew Chief Eric: you know how that worked on the old cars? And to your point, why is this such a big thing? Because the little stock that activates the turn signal isn’t actually connected to the circuitry for the turn signal anymore.
Remember, this is a software problem. Mm-hmm. Because on the old cars when the bulb went out, as rare as that was
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, it was like tripper relay or something. Right. And it wasn’t getting, it wasn’t getting enough circuitry or something.
Crew Chief Eric: It shorts the circuit and causes the relay to start opening and closing really fast.
Yeah. ’cause it was all what? Mechanical.
Crew Chief Brad: Gee, [00:35:00] imagine that.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Yeah. Shocker. Well, Brad, I wanna go back to something you said before about the badge engineering at BMW. As we know over the last decade, they are infamous for slapping an M badge on just about anything. Got that? MI three. Hmm? Yeah. Woo. This one just made me shake my head.
Tanya and I actually talked about this off camera. We’ve been very excited about all the gazoo racing products from Toyota gr, this GR jars, gr supra, GR 86. Gr gr. They’re everywhere. It’s awesome. Even the Haas GR Toyota team, right? I mean now this season, but because they enthusiast who is at the helm of Toyota is now left and it’s in charge of by a bean counter.
They have taken a page from their partnership with BMW. ’cause let’s not forget that the Supra was a Z four, the Supra, as we like to call it. So now Toyota is slapping GR badges on stuff. And I’m gonna use the word stuff ’cause I don’t wanna say [00:36:00] anything too bad, but I’ll just say this Toyota’s introducing the RAV4 GR sports
Executive Producer Tania: garbage.
Crew Chief Eric: Is that what GR is short for now? Garbage.
Crew Chief Brad: So I will say this is not new territory for Toyota because they’ve been doing it in the US for years.
Executive Producer Tania: TRD
Crew Chief Brad: with Lexus and they’ve got the F sport, which is not an F. So they’ve been doing it for a while now it’s just kind of trickled down into the normal Toyota brand.
Crew Chief Eric: All I’m gonna say is there is nothing sport or GR about this RAV4. The design alone is pretty terrible looking. It reminds me of that Bentley we talked about earlier. It’s just awful. But hey, it’s got little red stitching in the seats GR right there.
Crew Chief Brad: So you’re paying for an appearance package
Crew Chief Eric: pretty much like the BMWs.
It’s just an appearance but slap some badges on it. It’s a m now. Terrible. Toyota, you make me sad.
Crew Chief Brad: You gotta do better.
Crew Chief Eric: I got click [00:37:00] baited this month guys. I got really excited. I read the headline from Car Scoops, pinine Farina, who has been, by the way, booted from Ferrari. They’re no longer designing Ferrari.
That’s why I got excited about this. Pinine Farina has a Honda NSX reboot and I was like, Ooh, ooh, this is gonna be good. Like they’re gonna get their revenge on Ferrari. You know, as we joke that a lot of the Ferrari look like an NSX, but unfortunately this is a rest mod. Mm-hmm. Body kit by PanIN Farina. I mean it looks good, don’t get me wrong.
’cause the classic NSX looks good and it’s still a good looking cart to this day, but what a bummer.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, it looks better than the The real in SX they came up with.
Crew Chief Eric: Yes. I love the wide bodiness to it.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, that’s hot. The red one. I would drive that
Crew Chief Eric: it looks more Ferrari than a Ferrari. If you think about it.
And it’s got pop-up headlights. How can you go wrong with pop-up headlights? That is amazing.
Crew Chief Brad: Yes.
Crew Chief Eric: But we’re not getting a new [00:38:00] NSX. However, comma, if this partnership were to continue somehow between Penny and Farina and Honda, that would be epic. The engines are still gonna be anemic, but the designs are gonna be amazing.
Let’s dog ear this a little bit. Come back to it and see if anything else progresses. Especially since Honda and Sony have sort of parted ways and dissolved the whole Alea thing, maybe they can concentrate on some good looking cars instead of the whatever that was. All right. Well, Kia decided apparently to make the cyber truck better looking.
Executive Producer Tania: I don’t understand because they said it’s a stinger, and I’m like, I don’t remember the stinger looking like this.
Crew Chief Eric: It did not. This looks like a cyber truck. Am I wrong?
Executive Producer Tania: Because like the Kia Stinger admittedly wasn’t a bad looking sedan.
Crew Chief Brad: It looks like an A seven to me. I liked it a lot.
Crew Chief Eric: Did you see the interior shot?
That is like minority report? Total recall.
Crew Chief Brad: Murder. Death Kill murder. Death kill.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. It’s like all the sci-fi films sprawled into [00:39:00] one. I wanna say this is terrible, but from every angle it’s better looking than a cyber truck.
Crew Chief Brad: What is that weird joystick thing in the gold seat? I thought it was a cup holder.
At first. I thought that was a Starbucks cup or a stand.
Crew Chief Eric: Is that a steering wheel or a Lego brick?
Executive Producer Tania: Maybe it drives itself.
Crew Chief Brad: Is that something to sit on? Well, I don’t get it.
Crew Chief Eric: Again, the cyber truck is the bottom of the barrel.
Executive Producer Tania: If that’s at the bar, then I mean, don’t take much. And guess what? It does not look good in Kelly Green.
That is not a favorable wrap. Color choice?
Crew Chief Eric: Nope. Oh, what’s this? Somebody added an, what’s this? What’s this? Someone added an article
Executive Producer Tania: so much like Honda. Is doing with heritage parts. Now, apparently Nissan will also be having a program for heritage parts
Crew Chief Eric: only if you own an Ultima, right?
Executive Producer Tania: Well,
I mean
Crew Chief Brad: Ultimas [00:40:00] are all original parts. They don’t ever change ’em.
Executive Producer Tania: They seem to indicate for the Z cars.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh, okay. I’m glad you specified.
Executive Producer Tania: You’re probably not getting some heritage parts for your 1990 Altima.
Crew Chief Brad: There’s no Altima Z Sport.
Crew Chief Eric: Brad, you bring up a very valid point. What if NI Nissan did that
Crew Chief Brad: like a Nismo sport?
Crew Chief Eric: SMOs Ultima.
Crew Chief Brad: An an Ultima.
Crew Chief Eric: That’d be terrible. I mean, good for them. More companies need to do this because plenty of enthusiasts have old cars, and as we’ve learned with our Ford project, which isn’t that old, it’s extremely difficult to get stuff and it’s like it shouldn’t be. I mean, we’re very blessed in the Volkswagen community that there’s a huge aftermarket support for all the old cars, but I feel for everybody else, if you don’t have that network and you don’t have that import overnight from Japan thing going on, it’s gotta be extremely hard to get stuff done, which is why you never see any of these cars on the road.[00:41:00]
Well, switching to EVs and concept cars, Tanya, they finally got the smart right?
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, these cloth wheels, I don’t understand.
Crew Chief Eric: I’ve never seen white tires before.
Crew Chief Brad: They won’t be white for long.
Crew Chief Eric: What is with these front ends? This is the third car with this thing that looks like, you remember those mats like our grandparents would put in the bathtub so you wouldn’t slip.
You know those things for like the seventies, like that’s what that looks like. You know what that feels like? You don’t even have to touch it. You know what it feels like?
Executive Producer Tania: I don’t think this feels like that. However,
Crew Chief Eric: it looks like a suitcase.
Executive Producer Tania: You know the problem is you don’t need a grill. So what do you do with that space?
And I guess there’s trying to be creative with a pattern of. Plus signs, [00:42:00] negative signs and circles.
Crew Chief Eric: All the mathematical operations you can think of like what is this?
Executive Producer Tania: Which the front view has a pound sign and a two in the little, I guess those are lights of some sort in the grill.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s ’cause it’s the four two,
Crew Chief Brad: hashtag four two.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Much like the mini, they did not deviate too far from its roots. So it’s, you look at it and go, that’s a smart, I mean the wheels and the tires are bizarre.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, the thing is two feet long, how much can you deviate from the spirit of it?
Crew Chief Eric: True. It is a roller skate. Here’s the shocking part, and maybe it’s not 186 mile range on battery.
Is that not enough or is that just right for its size?
Crew Chief Brad: Well, I think it’s right for its size. I don’t know anybody that would be taking a road trip in a car this size. And it’s gonna be in the UK and Europe and everything. It’s,
Crew Chief Eric: no, you’re gonna take that back because I posted on Discord. I saw a gentleman driving around the city this month in a [00:43:00] Braas Smart, which I had to like do a 10 take not a triple take.
I did like a 10 take.
Crew Chief Brad: You were in the city.
Executive Producer Tania: He wasn’t driving down the coast.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. You didn’t see ’em on 95.
Crew Chief Eric: City miles are like dog years. Okay. Like how many country miles are equal to a city mile? You know what I’m saying? Like it’s, it’s rough and tumble out there.
Executive Producer Tania: Uh,
Crew Chief Eric: it’s an excursion.
Executive Producer Tania: That comparison makes no sense.
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t know. I feel like an electric smart should do like 500 miles before it needs to be charged.
Crew Chief Brad: Where are they gonna put all the batteries?
Executive Producer Tania: Exactly. You think that? ’cause you go, oh, it’s so small it power to wait. It should be going forever. But the problem is it’s so small. You can fit like one Duracell battery in it
Crew Chief Eric: double or triple A.
Crew Chief Brad: When I think of a smart car, yes. I think it should go like, sure. To use Eric’s analogy or Eric’s thought it should go 500 miles. Yeah, you should be able to charge it off of Mofi on your phone.
Crew Chief Eric: Yes, a hundred percent.
Executive Producer Tania: If you could fit a battery on that, that could do. 500 [00:44:00] miles, then we should be getting way better mileage out of bigger cars.
Crew Chief Eric: But we’re not, because I think it’s all part of the game. Or the farce
Crew Chief Brad: delusion.
Crew Chief Eric: Thank you.
Crew Chief Brad: It all, it all aids. The uh, the conflict,
Crew Chief Eric: the excursion. My new favorite. It’s my word of the month excursion
Crew Chief Brad: liberation.
Crew Chief Eric: I’m talking about the Ford. Isn’t that what you’re talking about?
Crew Chief Brad: Oh, of course. Always.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, Brad, let’s switch to Lost and found your favorite part of the drive through where we scour the internet and call up Chuck led duck at Gray Chevrolet to see if he’s got anything on the lot that we want to buy. And I found a car for Tanya.
Executive Producer Tania: Uh oh.
Crew Chief Eric: Shall I read the stats? Limited production only 250 units worldwide.
This was a Japanese allocation with left hand drive. 45 units were sent to Japan. It’s serial number 1 [00:45:00] 74 of two 50. Its condition is non-smoking and it’s completely stock and its interior and exterior. Its exclusive. Features include RO orange leather, front bucket seats, 18 inch oz, magnesium wheels, and a Remus dual exhaust system, which I don’t think was stock on this particular car.
What am I talking about? The 3.2 liter VR six powered Beetle RSI.
Crew Chief Brad: I hope Tanya has not looked at it to see the cost yet.
Executive Producer Tania: Oh, I know the cost. So why don’t we refresh people and what that cost is.
Crew Chief Eric: What do we think this should cost? What would you be willing to pay for a Beatle RSI? And please note that in the picture, there’s a black magic R 32 behind it.
Crew Chief Brad: It’s your old black magic R.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s probably where it ended up. Yeah, it was
Crew Chief Brad: sent to Japan.
Crew Chief Eric: Don’t even get me started. All right, Tanya, what would you pay for an RSI Beetle?
Executive Producer Tania: What would I pay? That’s a very good question.
Crew Chief Eric: Don’t let it weigh you down. Like other purchases weigh you down. [00:46:00] Just be like, I would pay if I had a million dollars and I don’t care, I would pay.
Blah. What would you pay?
Executive Producer Tania: Well, if I had a million dollars and I didn’t care, then I could just buy this one.
Crew Chief Eric: Okay. But I’m just saying like, I’m trying to alleviate the pressure where you’re like, oh, I don’t wanna pay too much and I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna underpay just like, put out a number. Like what do you think this car is worth to you?
Executive Producer Tania: $30,000.
Crew Chief Eric: 30. Wow. You’re so cheap.
Executive Producer Tania: I know. That’s why I was like, hesitating.
Crew Chief Eric: I was to say 50.
Crew Chief Brad: I was, I, I was in the 50 to 60 range.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. ’cause these are super rare,
Executive Producer Tania: considered maybe 45.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh my god. So cheap.
Executive Producer Tania: Okay. We do all these things to it, and then there’s still that steering wheel,
Crew Chief Brad: but it’s entirely stock.
Crew Chief Eric: It’s allegedly stocked.
That Remus exhaust did not come from Volkswagen. I’m just pointing
Executive Producer Tania: out allegedly stock. Did they come with orange Recaro bucket seats?
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t remember what the RSIs came with. Those are heinous though. But yes, it still has like the factory [00:47:00] stupid steering wheel that was in your, that’s in your beetle.
Crew Chief Brad: Those are the seats I need in my car.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, maybe they came like this, we wouldn’t know. They didn’t sell ’em here.
Crew Chief Eric: No they did not.
Executive Producer Tania: Would I pay $160,000 for it? No. If I had a million dollars, then
Crew Chief Eric: well see. If I won the lottery, I would buy you this. I wouldn’t have told you that I bought it for you. I would just have it delivered to your house and then I wouldn’t give you the keys for a while.
Just like tease you that. It’s like sitting in your driveway. These are super cool.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, I would want one,
Crew Chief Eric: it’s really a shame. Nobody created an authentic body kit where you could build one, granted be front wheel drive, or if you want to do all the work to the drive train to put the all wheel drive in there, it’s not a big deal.
You get it from a tt.
Crew Chief Brad: I was just about to say like what would be more expensive buying this car at 160 or building one yourself?
Executive Producer Tania: Buying this car for 160?
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, it’s probably cheaper to build one.
Executive Producer Tania: I don’t know that you could build it exactly like this one.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, there was that one that we saw. [00:48:00] It was the HPA one that sold on bring a trailer and that was under a hundred thousand so that you would’ve had money to spare and they did build one.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, I really also don’t like this interior. If that’s actually how it came,
Crew Chief Eric: it would’ve been cool if it was blue.
Crew Chief Brad: Did they ever, did they come in any other color other than silver? No, I think I’ve only seen them in silver.
Executive Producer Tania: I don’t only ever seen them silver.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: The racing ones came in all sorts of funky colors, orange and blue, and like all the, the Beetle Cup series ones that they used.
Crew Chief Brad: So what I would buy for going down a rabbit hole here, I would save my 160,000 from this and I would buy that Volkswagen, GTI that I think it was oh 34 built that had a 2.7 twin turbo V six in the back.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, I know what you’re talking about.
Crew Chief Brad: That car was. Maze balls. I would buy that. It was, it sold, you know, a few years ago or several years ago.
I can’t remember what it sold for, but that car was awesome. They put a lot of time and customization into that.
Executive Producer Tania: I have to go back for a second before we move on to [00:49:00] this 3 56 thing, because the comments of some things are so funny. The amount of people that don’t understand this car and why it is so expensive is insane.
You are insane. I understand what this car is because I have the front wheel drive version of it without the VR six.
Crew Chief Eric: This is the same. Same but different thing.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, yes, it’s badass. And had they only sold these here,
Crew Chief Brad: you still wouldn’t be able to afford it.
Executive Producer Tania: End of the day it’s, it’s 25-year-old beetle.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah,
Executive Producer Tania: I mean,
Crew Chief Eric: so instead, let’s talk about 65-year-old beetle. Let’s talk about three pieces. There you go. Let’s back off of this $160,000 number. Let’s say you had $160,000 to spend. Would you spend it on an RSI Beetle?
Executive Producer Tania: No.
Crew Chief Eric: Or would you buy a 3 56? Because that’s what Manny from PCA longtime friend of the show is basically espousing in his latest blog post on pca.org.[00:50:00]
Executive Producer Tania: Oh, no, I would, I was gonna say I was gonna buy A A MG Mercedes gt.
Crew Chief Brad: I was just about to say, you wanna say A-M-G-G-T?
Crew Chief Eric: Yes. But if we’re comparing beetle shaped vehicles
Executive Producer Tania: Oh. I didn’t know that that was a boundary to the conversation.
Crew Chief Eric: It is now.
Crew Chief Brad: Tanya would buy 16 Turbo butyl. They make one good one out of all 16.
Crew Chief Eric: Alright, so getting back to it, would you spend 160,000 on RSI? We already know you’d buy Mercedes, which is more akin to the 9 28 or 3 56 because I’ve said for a long time the 3 56 market is ripe for the picking because there’s too many people sacrificing nine elevens to go build singers. Or they’re holding onto their nine elevens and they’ve gone through the roof and these 3 56 s are left behind unloved.
Executive Producer Tania: Would I buy that for $160,000? Or the Beetle for $160,000?
Crew Chief Eric: 3 56. Not a Beetle
Executive Producer Tania: Say what?
Crew Chief Eric: 3 [00:51:00] 56? Not a beetle.
Executive Producer Tania: No, no, no. I thought you said the choice. The question is, would I buy this RSI for $160,000 or this 3 56 for the same money
Crew Chief Eric: and 3 56 might cost less. I mean, you’re getting a classic Porsche for less than that Beetle.
Executive Producer Tania: And after I’ve spanked it off the line,
Crew Chief Eric: hey, now they make 75 horsepower. Okay.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, I would have, I would buy the RSI. I think
Crew Chief Eric: I would love to have a 3 56 like I’ve read this article, and Manny is not wrong. These cars are gonna have a second coming. They’re gonna have a whole new fellowship and a whole new following.
I think they’re the place that if you’re looking to buy a Porsche, especially an air cold Porsche. You should invest your money in 3 56 s.
Crew Chief Brad: How much is a 3 56 running right now?
Crew Chief Eric: He doesn’t mention it in the article.
Executive Producer Tania: Newtown Square, wherever that is, has a used 77,000 mile 1962 Porsche 3 56 BT six 1600 Super for the low low price of 229 9 [00:52:00] 9 5.
Is
Crew Chief Eric: that all?
Executive Producer Tania: You could also get a 1959 Porsche 3 56 used with 4,000 miles on eBay for $80,000.
Crew Chief Eric: So the pendulum swings pretty far there. Brad.
Crew Chief Brad: Ooh, here you go. A one scale, one Porsche, 3 56 speedster wooden display model.
Crew Chief Eric: Ah, Uhhuh.
Crew Chief Brad: If you want to go the Morgan route,
Crew Chief Eric: Uhhuh
Crew Chief Brad: is, uh. Sold for 15,000.
Executive Producer Tania: Okay. This is a nice clean 1 56 speed.
Well, it’s a speedster replica.
Crew Chief Eric: I’d take a replica.
Executive Producer Tania: 44 9.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s not bad.
Executive Producer Tania: That’s not bad.
Crew Chief Eric: 45,000 for a classic Porsche. That is not bad.
Executive Producer Tania: That is not bad. However, dollar for dollar. I mean, that would be,
Crew Chief Brad: well, here you go. Porsche 3 56, speedster styled, go-kart. Oh,
Crew Chief Eric: stop. Stop.
Crew Chief Brad: 80, 80, $200.
Executive Producer Tania: Uh, it’s another [00:53:00] replica. You could get a 3 56, a replica for 35 9.
Crew Chief Eric: I am good with replicas too.
Executive Producer Tania: In the great state of Michigan.
Crew Chief Brad: Are the replicas just built on beetles?
Crew Chief Eric: Yes. Okay. Just like the Beck Spiders and all those other things out there. Well, all right. Well, I haven’t convinced you to buy a 3 56. Well, maybe I can convince you to buy this uncool wall nominee. It’s been a minute.
I found one.
Crew Chief Brad: The fudge is this.
Crew Chief Eric: This is a Homebrew Chevy Trailblazer convertible, and as the headline reads, it is the mullet of cars.
Executive Producer Tania: Dang.
Crew Chief Eric: It is business in the front, already in the back for sale at a Nissan dealership of all places. Somebody traded this in
Crew Chief Brad: or across Cabrio Lake.
You were gonna say Ultima?
Crew Chief Eric: I was, but
Crew Chief Brad: I I beat you. No. A, a Murano Cross. Cabrio Lake. They were like, you know what? This one is it, but that one? Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: What was wrong with this [00:54:00] trailblazer? That somebody said, you know what, we gotta cut the roof off and make it a convertible.
Crew Chief Brad: They’re friends with Daniel.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, we’ll get to one of those in a minute.
Don’t stray too far from that thought. But here’s what gets me, right? So the structural rigidity of a trailblazer is, uh, partially where
Crew Chief Brad: the doors,
Crew Chief Eric: well in its roof structure ’cause it’s built like a box. So how much does this flex when it goes down the road,
Crew Chief Brad: you’re assuming it goes down the road.
Crew Chief Eric: Well that’s true too.
But more importantly, if you were gonna spend the time and the money to do this, why not just buy an SSR?
Crew Chief Brad: Because then it doesn’t run on that sweet, sweet straight six.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, right. It’s not even an ss it’s not even a V eight in this. This is terrible.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, it’s got that 4.2 liter in line six mm You can feel those 275 ponies.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, but look how much less it weighs now that it has no glass.
Crew Chief Brad: Sure. Actually someone even put in here small, like they mentioned the SSR in [00:55:00] here. So
Crew Chief Eric: that’s what I’m saying, man, that’s ugh. The fakes people do is absolutely just incredible. So yeah, this one’s going up on the uncool wall so you can vote on it with like 90 other cars that are on the uncool wall at this point.
Well, speaking of things that are uncool, we would be remiss if we didn’t look at this picture of Elon. Look at this picture of Elon. What a nerd this was back in the early days of the Roadster, and the reason I bring this up is the Roadster is back in the conversation again.
Crew Chief Brad: How are the profits up?
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t know.
There’s tons of cyber trucks sitting around on lots being unsold. Mm. Maybe selling more carbon credits. Again, the reason I bring this up, and again, it has been in multiple feeds and uh, you know, some new renderings of the Roadster and whatnot, all AI generated. But Musk is quoted as saying the Roadster will be Tesla’s last manually driven car.
He also claims Tesla’s aspirational goal of building the last. [00:56:00] Best driver’s car. I think Porsche’s got something to say about that.
Crew Chief Brad: This is a non story Moving on.
Crew Chief Eric: Complete clickbait. I mean the Roadster is never gonna happen. We’ve been talking about the Roadster since 2017. Like it predates the show.
They’ve been teasing with the lasers and the this and the that, and it’s gonna do zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds with the dual cannons. And Bobby Parks came on talking about it’s gonna be the next hit. Dragster, blah, blah. I mean, it is the biggest vaporware smoke and mirrors car ever. And we thought the cyber truck was gonna be like that too.
Like they were never gonna make it. And then they finally made that. So maybe, maybe this just, we haven’t waited long enough. Right? 2027 will be 10 years that we’ve been talking about the delayed production of the Tesla Roadster.
Crew Chief Brad: Alright, so question time.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh boy.
Crew Chief Brad: What happens first? The Tesla Roadster goes into production, or Volkswagen writes the ship.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh, [00:57:00] dude. I don’t know if that can be answered. That might be like the secret of the universe. I don’t know that we can answer that question. That’s wow, that that dude, I’m having a, uh, existential crisis now trying to solve that problem.
Crew Chief Brad: It’s like that meme with the woman in the middle of the screen with all the math equations going around her head and everything.
It’s exactly what’s going on in your head right now.
Crew Chief Eric: Pretty much. Pretty much.
Well, let’s move to the segment that has changed more times than you’ve changed your socks this month. Let’s go to seriously, what could go wrong where we get to ask Tanya the same question we’ve asked her for six months. Have you watched the F1 movie?
Executive Producer Tania: Well,
Crew Chief Eric: what, before you answer that, our listeners will have to tune in for the next Formula Fanatics episode.
We will answer that question. So let’s put a pin in. For a moment. How do you keep an idiot in suspense? I’ll tell you tomorrow,[00:58:00]
but seriously though, what could go wrong? This one came across my desk also from the Society of Automotive Historians, so I’m just gonna sort of read this in. In summary, there’s a TV journalist based in New York that is currently developing a documentary on a sport from the early 19 hundreds known as.
Auto polo.
Executive Producer Tania: Ooh,
Crew Chief Eric: it is a wonderfully chaotic motorsport. The tour through Madison Square Garden and Coney Island in the 1910s and twenties before repair bills finally killed it. Take a look at, this is the craziest thing I have ever seen.
Crew Chief Brad: It reminds me of the auto football that top gear played,
Crew Chief Eric: but mental
Crew Chief Brad: with more, more car around.
Executive Producer Tania: No, this is like the other thing. The chariots with the motorcycles where it’s like you have the motorcycles in front and you’re doing like chariots of fire,
Crew Chief Eric: but look at some of these wrecks. These guys are being ejected, but then there’s also, what do you wanna call him? The mechanic, like he’s leaning out over the car [00:59:00] while the other car’s going by.
They’ve got these clubs in their hand trying to hit the ball.
Crew Chief Brad: Well, those are the polo clubs.
Executive Producer Tania: This is like a top gear episode. This is where they got it from.
Crew Chief Eric: Look at the one as you get down maybe three quarters away, where the guy is leaning out the rear passenger. He has what looks like, I don’t know, a snowshoe and he’s hitting an oversized ball.
You see this? This is the most buck wild thing I’ve ever seen.
Crew Chief Brad: It looks like a Morgan
Executive Producer Tania: Wonder how people died doing this.
Crew Chief Eric: There’s so many death in Motorsport because of this stuff. Like this is why not Formula One. It’s this. How many rollovers? Absolutely insane.
Executive Producer Tania: That was Darwinism.
Crew Chief Eric: They thought it was fun.
You say it’s Darwinism. This is sport.
Executive Producer Tania: This is also the meme where it’s like, this is why men don’t live long.
Crew Chief Eric: God bless. Absolutely
Crew Chief Brad: dumb ways to die.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, finally, Brad, you sort of buried the lead earlier talking about mountain man. Dan, going back to our [01:00:00] sort of showcase, this gentleman has solved the world’s gas problem.
He built a square body Chevy that runs on would
look at this thing. I’m gonna say that again. It runs on wood. Brad, your face says it all,
Executive Producer Tania: but it says that it’s covered 60,000 miles. That’s impressive.
Crew Chief Brad: That was be before the wood.
Crew Chief Eric: It took 20 years to build this thing.
Executive Producer Tania: It was built for enjoyment, not as an energy solution.
Crew Chief Eric: I’m gonna say bull. I’ve heard Dan talk about his hydroelectric plant based off of creek. This is pure trying to beat the man, beat the system, and not pay the gas bills.
Executive Producer Tania: The V eight pulls as if it runs on gasoline.[01:01:00]
Crew Chief Eric: ’cause the best part, it takes five to 10 minutes to get started up.
Crew Chief Brad: Probably makes a mean wood fire pizza.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh my God.
Crew Chief Brad: It also takes 81 pounds of wood to go 60 miles.
Crew Chief Eric: Yes.
Crew Chief Brad: That’s a lot of wood.
Crew Chief Eric: And I love how the article says it’s a small inconvenience so it can go 60 miles on 81 pounds of wood, but you have to feed it every 43 miles. So you can’t even do the whole 60 miles.
’cause you have to keep the fire going.
Executive Producer Tania: But I could get to work. On one wood fill.
Crew Chief Brad: That’s when you get your brother Darrell and your other brother Darrell up there feeding it and stoking it as you’re driving down the road.
Executive Producer Tania: Oh, we have to stay tuned because there’s going to be a video later to document this Chevy’s participation in a one mile speed event.
Crew Chief Brad: Is this whistling diesel.
Crew Chief Eric: This is some mountain [01:02:00] man engineering right here.
Crew Chief Brad: This, this is Daniel looking around his property thinking, you know what? I got a lot of, I got a lot of wood up here. How am I gonna get rid all this wood? I got a lot of wood and a lot of cars. Hmm.
Crew Chief Eric: But then you gotta burn different woods, right?
I wonder if cherry wood gets you a couple extra miles versus, you know, burning an oak.
Executive Producer Tania: Let’s think about this. He’s got the cover on. Well, no, he doesn’t have a cover on the back. So you got the bed of the truck, so that’s good. ’cause you can carry all your fuel in the bed of the truck. Then when you pull over, you put it in the pot, burn it.
I guess you can’t use this in the rain
because last I checked, what wood doesn’t burn very well.
Crew Chief Eric: You know, engines don’t burn water either.
Crew Chief Brad: Seeing this gives me a really good idea. So we take this idea, but we refine it. Instead of wood, we burn like a [01:03:00] liquid or something that like burns really efficiently. Oh. Instead of storing it in the bed of the truck, we put it in a tank and we, we burn it that way and it gets pumped through the tank.
We can call it fuel. Well hold on a
Executive Producer Tania: second.
Crew Chief Brad: And you use a fuel pump to get it outta the tank.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s some Star Trek stuff, man. That is, no,
Executive Producer Tania: you know what would be interesting? We need to do the math on the price of a quart of wood equivalency. The quart of wood per gallon to fuel per gas. Like is this really, it’s more
Crew Chief Eric: expensive.
Of course. It’s like $600 a cord. How much gas are you buying?
Crew Chief Brad: Would it be more powerful and more efficient if you douse the wood and like lighter fluid?
Crew Chief Eric: No, it would burn faster. So here’s the other problem, okay. To make those wood chips, he’s gotta burn diesel to run his chipper at $6 a gallon to make fuel for the truck.
It doesn’t work.
Crew Chief Brad: He’s using coal. [01:04:00] It just.
Crew Chief Eric: See you read my mind because that’s the next logical conclusion to Tanya’s problem, which is because the wood chips get wet. Well, why don’t I use the wood chips in a device where I can use it to heat something else and maybe make, oh, I don’t know, steam. Steam Powers next watch.
Revolutionary idea.
Crew Chief Brad: We have gone full circle.
Crew Chief Eric: The internet still gives me hope. It’s stuff like this.
Crew Chief Brad: For what?
Crew Chief Eric: That I can find something actually entertaining.
Crew Chief Brad: So you tell me, this guy’s in Florida.
Executive Producer Tania: No. You know what it’s said? It was a finish. A Finnish Chevy truck. So do they mean like this is in Finland?
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, it has a European license plate. I just noticed that. It’s got the long, skinny one.
Executive Producer Tania: There you go.
Crew Chief Brad: I love that giant radiator.
Crew Chief Eric: What is Daniel in Finnish? We need to convert his name.
Crew Chief Brad: I think Daniel is universal.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh, okay. He’s not a Bjorn. He’s. All right, if that wasn’t enough, let’s move on to [01:05:00] rich people things.
Crew Chief Brad: This is the, the opposite of rich people things.
Crew Chief Eric: Well, I have just an announcement more than anything else, not anything to share on the rich people thing side. I just want to invite everybody to come join us July 10th through the 12th in South Bend, Indiana for the Automotive History Live conference.
That’ll be in conjunction with the concourses at kol, which is operated and sponsored by the Studebaker National Museum. So you get to meet folks from Studebaker, the Society of Automotive Historians, as well as Don from Garage Style Magazine, and you’ll see William Big Money Ross, John Summers, the motoring historian, and yours truly on stage giving a presentation about the Bianco Spial.
So if you haven’t listened to those podcast episodes, go back and jump in on those. But if you can’t make it to South Bend for that week in July, that’s okay. We’ll be live streaming the event. From our Twitch feed on Twitch tv, grand Touring Motorsports. So more [01:06:00] details to come. So stay tuned to the drive-through and our digital magazine for those updates.
Crew Chief Brad: And don’t forget, if you’re looking for that extra special automobile to complete your garage office den or mancave, be sure to check out garage style magazine.com for a list of upcoming auctions and events, along with a curated list of items going up for sale all over the country, because after all, what doesn’t belong in your garage.
Crew Chief Eric: Thanks for that, Brad. And now we’ll switch gears and talk about are you faster than an interceptor?
This is a real concern. I’ve seen multiple posts about this. I don’t know how many of ’em are real, but this one came from life in Florida. They’re gonna start using drones to catch speeders on the highway.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, that sucks.
Crew Chief Eric: Right.
Executive Producer Tania: There’s always those signs on the road that say, [01:07:00] enforced by air or something, and it’s like, what?
Really? Like
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: Speed checked by aircraft or whatever it is. Yeah.
Executive Producer Tania: What plane is flying overhead or helicopter clocking someone? Nobody, I’ve never seen it, but this is actually sadly ingenious.
Crew Chief Eric: It is. But these drones have a short lifespan though. Especially these quad rotor ones where they, they use a lot of energy.
They’re gonna nab somebody, but they’re not gonna nab everybody.
Crew Chief Brad: You know? It would probably be better if it ran on wood.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh. Oh geez.
Crew Chief Brad: I love that. It shows, it displays your speed. It would be really cool if it announced it like in cars three, ah, where they’re on the beach and there’s, it’s announcing your speed.
It’s like, Jarvis, what is my speed? 75 miles an hour, 76 miles an hour, 80 miles an hour, 85 miles an hour.
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t know like that. That’s definitely an AI generated picture. But the point is this Skynet police state future that we’re creating for [01:08:00] ourselves, it’s scary, right? I mean, it takes all the joy out of driving, and I’m not saying that you should be out there breaking the law and, and speeding and stuff like that.
I mean, it takes the fun out of cops and robbers I guess a little bit. You know, are you faster than an interceptor at its core? But drones, that’s a scary post-apocalyptic future that we’re talking about there.
Executive Producer Tania: It’s the future, unfortunately. So I don’t like it. But you know what, unfortunately we’re all gonna have to get used to this kind of stuff.
Crew Chief Eric: Uh, but you know, the side effect is gonna be in Florida, the reports are gonna be drunken man with alligator and passenger seat shoots down drone with 30 cal Cannon. You know what I mean? Like it’s gonna be like skeet shooting. It’ll be the next great sport is to get out in your wood powered square body and shoot down drones at 70 miles an hour.
Executive Producer Tania: That’ll be the plus side to this.
Crew Chief Eric: It’s gonna happen wherever there is drone, there is counter drone. That is a real situation.
Crew Chief Brad: I thought it’d be something like Florida man dies trying [01:09:00] to ride drone like Rodeo Bull.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s another good one. And I guarantee that’s gonna happen too. Yeah. This next one is another sort of sad story, and this is, I hate to say shame on you, Jake, from State Farm.
Shame on you, limu, emu, and Doug. A fleeing suspect totals a New York woman’s car and her insurance company isn’t gonna pay out,
Executive Producer Tania: is it? Shame on Jake from State Farm or limu IMO and Doug because she did not have collision insurance.
Crew Chief Eric: This is a freak accident. This is like when the frozen boulder of poo lands on your car from the airline.
Like that’s the same thing. Like, come on. That’s not her fault.
Executive Producer Tania: It’s not her fault.
Crew Chief Eric: Is that a collision? She didn’t collide with anybody?
Executive Producer Tania: No, but she only has personal injury liability on the car. So if the insurance company does not want to be gracious. They’re within their legal rights to say, too bad, so sad.
No persons were injured in this. You did not pay for collision insurance on the car. Therefore there’s no coverage.
Crew Chief Eric: I [01:10:00] got tetanus just looking at this car, personal injury, pay out.
Executive Producer Tania: It’s like, where are you going with that?
Crew Chief Brad: No. Her next step is to go after the state.
Executive Producer Tania: It, it is unfortunate. I mean, the insurance company, they’d have to be gracious and not an insurance company.
Crew Chief Eric: It’s a scam. You pay all this money into the system and when you need it, they’re like, nah, nah. But she
Crew Chief Brad: wasn’t paying enough.
Crew Chief Eric: I’m sure she paid enough to get a new car.
Crew Chief Brad: Well, yeah, but based on the pricing of whatever her insurance company was, she didn’t pay enough.
Crew Chief Eric: I mean, it’s an Impala after all.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, but if she, like everybody’s saying, if she didn’t have collision,
Crew Chief Eric: I don’t know that collision counts in this particular instance.
Crew Chief Brad: It does.
Crew Chief Eric: If nothing else, this is gonna get tied up in court.
So somebody’s gonna buying her a new car at some point.
Crew Chief Brad: So Eric, I see your point. Her insurance company should not be liable for this, but the other person’s insurance company should through their liability insurance
Crew Chief Eric: or the police [01:11:00] or whoever.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. So because this is not her fault,
Executive Producer Tania: but if they haven’t found the person who did it, there’s no other insurance company to, yeah.
Call or if the other person didn’t have insurance,
Crew Chief Brad: she needs to get a lawyer and see the state.
Crew Chief Eric: And on top of that, you can literally tell from the pictures. You don’t have to be a crime scene investigator. We don’t need to call Grissom for this one. You can tell that was not an accident created by something hit this vehicle because you cannot do that on the road.
There’s no way. I bet it
Crew Chief Brad: was an Ultima.
Crew Chief Eric: Of course it was. And it kept going ’cause it’s here for all of it.
Executive Producer Tania: The only thing she could do is sue the person for, I don’t even know. Does it count property damage? Personal property damage something?
Crew Chief Eric: I mean, that’s like squeezing blood out of a turnip.
Executive Producer Tania: Who else are you gonna sue?
Crew Chief Brad: She could sue the police for inciting a chase.
Crew Chief Eric: Ooh. Interesting. I wonder if that holds up,
Crew Chief Brad: whether it holds up or not. It gives her another option.
Crew Chief Eric: I mean, a good lawyer will find a way to make it happen. And then on top of that, there’s the whole garnished weeds thing. ’cause May, this is her only car. She can’t get to work right now.
[01:12:00] She’s gotta do Uber or whatever it is that she’s doing.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, but she’s in New York Public transportation. Unless she’s using the car for work that doesn’t hold up.
Crew Chief Eric: I’m trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Crew Chief Brad: She needs to go to the police. She needs to sue the police. She’s a victim.
Crew Chief Eric: She’s a victim for sure.
Crew Chief Brad: She needs to sue the police to get a new Ultima.
Crew Chief Eric: Shame on you. Jakes from State Farm. That’s all I’m saying. Oh boy. Tanya brought us one. What is this?
Crew Chief Brad: That’s a funny place to park.
Crew Chief Eric: What the,
Executive Producer Tania: here’s a video.
Crew Chief Eric: There’s Oh shit.
Crew Chief Brad: Oh yes.
Crew Chief Eric: Wait, what was this? A publicity stunt?
Executive Producer Tania: Supposedly not.
Crew Chief Eric: The guy in the Lambo was like backing up.
Oh wow.
Crew Chief Brad: Because he saw her coming.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh, she that high up that she couldn’t see ’em.
Executive Producer Tania: That’s what the article alleges was she’s so lifted and oblivious that she didn’t see the hurricane.
Crew Chief Brad: So I will say, having driven these Silverados of this model year, this body style
Crew Chief Eric: uhhuh,
Crew Chief Brad: it is. One of the reasons I didn’t buy it is ’cause it is nearly impossible to see over the hood.
Crew Chief Eric: And you’re a tall guy. She’s not very tall.
Crew Chief Brad: [01:13:00] I’m six four. Yeah, I know. I can totally see how this is feasible.
Crew Chief Eric: You know, we joke about how the movies are fake. Like, oh, you could never do it. Ran right up the front of that Lamborghini like it was a ramp.
Executive Producer Tania: I mean, the hood of the truck is like a foot above the roof of the thing.
So
Crew Chief Eric: the hood, the bottom of the bumper’s above the hood of the Lamborghini.
Executive Producer Tania: No, no, no. I’m saying the hood of the truck is above the roof of the Lamborghini. Oh yeah. Yeah. So like her line of sight, especially if she’s not paying attention, you, you can’t see that car.
Crew Chief Eric: Wow. You think Jake from State Farm’s gonna pay out on that one?
Executive Producer Tania: Woo.
Crew Chief Eric: That Lambos gonna get totaled. That’s what that’s gonna happen to that. That’s a what? $250,000 car A Huan easily. Maybe more.
Crew Chief Brad: It’ll be 1 25 on the salvage market.
Crew Chief Eric: Hey man, that motor’s still good. That’s all I’m saying. Well, let’s go behind the pit wall. Talk a little bit about motor sports news. So there was a small blur this month about nascar, and we talked about this two [01:14:00] years ago in the drive through where they were testing.
An EV version of the NASCARs that we have today. And they kind of went quiet. And now NASCAR is considering racing the EVs.
Crew Chief Brad: So there’s gonna be a NASCAR version of Formula E.
Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Or the next generation of nascar. I mean, in my mind, they just got rid of carburetors. So like this is woo ev. What?
Crew Chief Brad: What’s it gonna sound like?
Crew Chief Eric: It’s like a bunch of Dyson vacuum cleaners out on track. Terrible
as they plateau. Like, can you imagine on an oval, like has Formula E even tried that? I mean, they’re doing road courses.
Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. It’s gonna it, it’s gonna make it like 10 laps
Crew Chief Eric: terrible. All right, well speaking of terrible, switching over to sports car and endurance racing Monkey C Monkey Dew in the Formula one world, all I have to say is GT three racing plus land stroll equal.
Epic fail. Do I need to say anything else? Lance [01:15:00] Stroll. GT three racing.
Crew Chief Brad: Who keeps telling this guy that he’s a good driver?
Crew Chief Eric: I just wanna read the stats from the race. I laughed so hard when I saw this. The first time he was lapped 12 times four. Milli one driver was lapped. 12 times. He had 465 seconds of penalty.
Now, that wasn’t all his responsibility for what I read, and he finished 48th.
Crew Chief Brad: Oh, how many cars?
Crew Chief Eric: 47.
Oh my God.
Crew Chief Brad: Where was this
Crew Chief Eric: driving? An Aston Martin, GT three. What a clown. What a buffoon like, do you think he’s gonna do more of these?
Executive Producer Tania: I saw something and I didn’t save it down, whatever. It was basically saying, you know, land Stroll deserves his seed in F1. You know, he won the championships leading, you know, whatever championships he was in leading up to Formula One.
And I’m like, I didn’t even read the whole thing. I’m like, look. Maybe he [01:16:00] deserved his initial seat into Formula One based on performance leading up to Formula One. But in no way does he continue to deserve his seat in Formula One. If his father wasn’t the owner of the
Crew Chief Eric: the Blue Jean Company
Executive Producer Tania: of the team, he’d be gone.
He would’ve been gone already. Nobody would keep him around. So at this point, no. He does not deserve a seat in Formula One.
Crew Chief Eric: I didn’t know you could get your Formula One racing license by going to the Lego Traffic School at Legoland Ron. Oh, your face.
Crew Chief Brad: Lance Stroll, just, I know that’s why you watch Formula One, but we’ll talk about that on the other episode.
Crew Chief Eric: And since we’re talking about sports car and endurance racing, I just wanna mention that we have scheduled a whole bunch of evening with the legend throughout the next couple of months. So if you’re interested in being part of the live audience, we have Charles Mendez coming on April the 29th, followed by the legendary Michael Kaiser in [01:17:00] May.
And then Nicholas Bole in June and David Cot, who’s famous for running the Red Lobster racing BM BMW M1 in August. So check out motoring podcast.net, look under shows, and then evening with a legend and you can jump on and register to be part of the live audience. I just do wanna talk about some virtual stuff ’cause that is now part of our catalog of things that we talk about now.
So they just released a set of course of EVO six or 0.6, the sixth release, I don’t even know what to call it. They’re not even a 1.0 version. They keep modifying the game. This brings a bunch of current Gen GT three cars, like nine elevens and stuff to the table. It also adds Sebring and two classic supercars.
You get the chance to drive the Kunta and the 2 88 GTO Ferrari. The big downside to a CC Evo being a evolution. Every time they change something, they either break something else or they completely change the way you had it set up and it wipes out all your settings and you gotta spend the next three [01:18:00] hours, like recalibrating everything as I wasted a whole bunch of time getting it set up so I could try it before talking about it.
Today. Some of the changes they made to calibration are actually really cool. They, they’re showing you things like pedal output versus what the game thinks it seems, so you can really calibrate the pedals, which really help dial in braking and, and launching with the clutch ’cause the clutch is always an issue and, and getting shifting smoother and stuff like that.
So you’re really able to dial in the dead zones and all that kind of stuff. I will say pedals feel a lot better. The racing was a lot better. The F 40 is still a hoot, but it’s also garbage to drive ’cause they made it way too fragile. So they need to stop making it so lifelike. It would be nice to be able to finish a race without the transmission exploding, but it is getting better.
You know, they’re making changes, stuff like that. I’ll say I, I had one of my best races going back to what we talked about earlier. I hopped in the NSX and it was like, it can go the whole race. It was super reliable, it was quick and it was fun and it’s agile and I was like, just make ’em more [01:19:00] like that. I will say that they changed the physics model a little bit, which is really cool because it is more true to life in the sense that if you go into a turn a little too hot, like the backend steps out in a more realistic way, but you can catch it.
And it’s not like Tokyo Drift kind of thing. Like it feels more like being at the track where you’re having a code brown moment, but you can recover from it. So I was really, really excited about that change. So if they stay on that path, that’d be great. They just need to make the cars a little less fragile.
Now on the other camp, project Motor Racing, that’s the other big one this season, right? That’s based on kind of picking up where project cars two left off. It’s a lot of the developers from that original title. It got a whole UI facelift. So when I logged in, I’m like, where? Yeah, I used to click here to do, I don’t know, I either like relearn the whole menu system and it did get some iconic cars.
One of them is right on the cover of the update. That’s the E 46, M 3G TR, I mean that amazing car. So you get to play with stuff like that. And you know, I’ve been progressing with it since it launched [01:20:00] just like a C Evo. And I still think the TransAm GTO series is the reason I keep playing that game because TransAm GTO isn’t available in anything else right now.
And it is absolutely awesome. It’s my favorite class, hands down. But I’m glad to see both of these games progressing or both of these sims progressing versus some other titles have just completely stalled out. Like I haven’t seen an update for EAs, WRC in a while. There’s been a bunch of other stuff that’s just completely flatlined, so who knows what’s going on there, but we’ll keep tabs on it.
But these are the two big ones for this year if you’re just getting into virtual racing. So that said, our Motorsports News is brought to you in part by Endur Reverse, powered by Hyper Dev America’s premier endurance racing community. So check it out online to become a [email protected]. Well, it’s time for the GTM Track side report.
So we got a quick update on our unfocused performance lemons project. We got new motor mounts, we got a new clutch because we figured it’s [01:21:00] probably be smart to not be on the side of the track, 20 minutes in with the unknown history and 237,000 miles on the engine. Might as well do the clutch and make sure that at least we can go more than 20 minutes.
So that’s done. We have yet to do the brakes and we still need tires. And we haven’t decorated the car yet. So if anybody’s looking to help us out there and if you’re look, and if you can’t, you know, a couple bucks would be nice too because all this stuff’s getting expensive really fast. So our first event was supposed to be mid Ohio, like we talked about in the last drive through, but we pushed it off to June 5th through seventh weekend at New Jersey Motorsport Park, that’s the hoop de at New Jersey.
So we’re looking forward to getting the focus out there and doing our first laps. We have some commitments from some drivers, so that’s gonna be good. And hopefully the car will be done in time and hopefully fully decorated. But again, if you are in the area, you wanna come and meet us, you wanna come and hang out.
The paddock is always open. It is free to spectate at lemons events, if I remember correctly. Don’t quote me on [01:22:00] that, but it is a spectacle. It is worth checking out. There’s always a crowd. The cars are really, really interesting and you know, when you start a hundred plus cars in a two and a half mile track, it is absolute chaos.
So we are looking forward to that for sure. Brad, are you excited?
Crew Chief Brad: Uh, I am, I’m not gonna be able to make it to the race, but I’m excited for the lemons race. I will be able to make it to.
Crew Chief Eric: But you got your Santa Claus suit now. You bought a driving suit and everything?
Crew Chief Brad: I did, I did, but unfortunately I’ve got other prior commitments that weekend.
Crew Chief Eric: Aw, so you’re gonna race in October at some point, right?
Crew Chief Brad: I’m definitely gonna be there for that. Uh, I’m trying to figure out another time to get there. To get out in the car and get some sea time before that event as well. So
Crew Chief Eric: I am hoping, crossing my fingers, they had planned this year, New Jersey Summit Point and then they added Road Atlanta to the schedule.
I really wanna get to Road Atlanta that’s in December, so we gotta wait till all the way to the end of the year, which would be a great way to recap and look back over all the progress we made. Maybe we can squeeze in another race here and there. But yeah, super looking forward [01:23:00] to at least the three races that we’ve committed to for the year.
Just gotta get the car done, get everything prioritized and buttoned up and all that kind of thing and still working on a design. Right? Tanya?
Executive Producer Tania: Thought we were done.
Crew Chief Eric: We well, are we? But we’re unfocused, which means we are not committed quite yet.
Crew Chief Brad: That’s why the design is blurry.
Crew Chief Eric: Uh, is that what it is? Oh, I thought it was my eyes.
You’re getting older.
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As always, thank you to our co-host and executive producer, uh, who no longer sounds like Kathleen Turner this month. But, uh, Tanya, thank you and to all the fans, friends and family who support Grand Tour Motorsport, as well as the Motoring Podcast network. Without you, none of this would be possible.
Crew Chief Eric: Good job, guys.
Good job.
Was a Is your microphone working?
Crew Chief Brad: Who me?
Crew Chief Eric: Oh, there it goes.
Crew Chief Brad: I didn’t say anything.
Crew Chief Eric: Oh, I thought you did.
Crew Chief Brad: No, I get myself into trouble every time I say something. Mm.
Crew Chief Eric: Only on this show.
Crew Chief Brad: Only anytime I talk. There’s Tanya. Hi, [01:25:00] Tanya.
Executive Producer Tania: Sorry. I was dealing with a spider. Of
Crew Chief Eric: course. It’s like that other episode
Crew Chief Brad: in a dark space.
A quiet space.
Executive Producer Tania: A quiet place. A
Crew Chief Brad: quiet place. Yeah. That’s what I was getting to. Yeah.
Crew Chief Eric: That’s a whole movie like that isn’t there? Where there’s like no talking
Crew Chief Brad: Three eyes. Yeah. I
Executive Producer Tania: don’t want to be in the quiet place.
Crew Chief Brad: No.
Crew Chief Eric: Did you guys hear that? There’s a podcast where there’s like no sound. You just tune in and it’s just nothing
Crew Chief Brad: That’s really dumb
Crew Chief Eric: for a moment there. I thought we, that sound like the
Executive Producer Tania: Yulong channel and Christmas.
Crew Chief Eric: I think so. You know what I mean? I, I don’t know that I could go more than, I don’t know, 30 seconds at least when the microphone’s on.
Crew Chief Brad: Hello and welcome to, we Don’t Talk where we don’t talk. Today’s topic is
Executive Producer Tania: not talking.[01:26:00]
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- 01:13:49 Motorsports News Roundup
- 01:17:18 Sim Racing Updates
- 01:20:49 Lemons Project Update
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