Two Girls 1 Formula

• Let’s address the 900# cup in the room – Tell us how you became F1 Fans?
• Why start an F1 podcast if you weren’t into racing? Was Drive to Survive an influence?  DTS – convince Eric!
• Who is the GOAT (OR GOATIFI)?
• Has F1 changed your appreciation for the car hobby?
• As we’re closing out the 2022 season – thoughts on the year at large? Best moments / Worst moments
• Outside of DTS what can Motorsport do to make it more inviting for Women?
• Now that the “W-series” has been suspended, what are your thoughts on that? When are we going to see a female F1 driver? And who’s your #1 candidate?

and much, much more!

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Gran Touring Motor Sports Podcast Break Fix, where we’re always fixing the break into something motor sports.

They started a safe space for F1 fans who felt marginalized in male dominate spaces to connect, make friends, and discuss races, drivers, team drama, future goals and aspirations and everything in between. Their specialty is connecting Formula one to pop culture and exploring the lighter, more fun side to the world’s most elite Motorsport.

That’s right, Tanya, Kate and Nicole of two girls one Formula podcast fly their fan girl flag loud and proud and are never ashamed to get the label. They understand that you can respect the technical side of the sport and think the drivers are cute too. And they’re joining us tonight for a special break fix crossover episode.

Brad, Tanya, and I want to welcome you both to break fix. So how you doing there? Nicole and Kate. Hi. Thank you for having us. We’re super excited to be here. . Yeah. It’s always fun [00:01:00] to do a crossover with another show, especially if it’s motorsport related. Absolutely. Absolutely. So as our listeners know, Tanya and Brad are our resident Formula one subject matter experts because they talk about it on every drive through episode since the very first one.

There’s that expert word again. I was gonna say, I can see Tanya rolling her eyes a little bit about that. The strong word . Yeah. Eric, you’re setting us up to be shamed on our own show . That’s very good. Even if you watch five minutes of f1, you’re still more expert than I am in the last. It’s true. This years five minutes more than you’ve seen in the last 10 years.

It’s all relative. What I’m hearing here is we’re all gonna gang up on Eric in this episode,

So actually the whole premise of the episode is to convince him why he should watch f1. Perfect. And I have to tell you, using the F1 drivers is cute. Might get your foot in the door, . It might be a good opening for him. Wow. I love that. Drive to survive definitely will not be the way in. I will tell you that right now.

It’s true. [00:02:00] It is a known fact on this show that I refuse. Even though Brad has tried at multiple attempts unsuccessfully to get me to watch, drive to Survive, it’s not gonna happen. What’s the reasoning behind that? Are we gonna get into that later? Hardheaded, stubbornness, but we can talk more about it.

All right. We won’t jump the gun on in . Well, we’re gonna unpack that though. Yeah, for sure. Yes. We have to unpack that. He just doesn’t watch F1 anymore because. Not try to talk about like F one 20 years ago, cuz he’ll put us all a shame. . Got it. Absolutely. Got it. Okay. Yes, yes. Setting the scene. I’m got, my wheels are turning.

I’m, I’m building the keys. I’m ready for this . Great, great, great. We’ll stop picking on Eric for now. We’re gonna go back to that, but let’s address the 900 pound cup in the room. , tell us how you all became F1 fans. Yeah, so a little bit of a long story, a little bit of a backstory is that I was dating someone in 2015 and he was a huge Formula one fan.

I had never heard of this sport before and I [00:03:00] thought that racing cars was pretty dumb. I was like, this is what you choose to spend your time on. Okay, great. Eventually our relationship got pretty serious. We moved in together and my weekends were. Dictated by qualifying and when the race was on. So I was like, okay, well if this is gonna be my life now, then I might as well pick a favorite driver and just really get into it because I’m gonna have to watch this sport every single weekend.

My ex-boyfriend was like one of those people who consumed every single interview. He like watched all of the race high. every piece of content. And so I started picking up on the fact that dealing in Ricardo was like one of the more enjoyable humans to watch on the screen. And so I was like, he has the best personality.

That’s my guy. I’m gonna start cheering for him. I have heard it said before by other female fans of Formula One, it’s the smile that launched a million fans, . I believe it. And I believe that. And you know, I was just, I would watch the press conferences and you know, [00:04:00] Lewis is very serious and you’ve got Seb and, and they take their job seriously, but Danny’s up there cracking jokes.

And I was like, all right, well he makes this enjoyable for me, so I’m gonna watch for him. I ended up going to my first race, which was Montreal, 20 17, 20 16. . That was kind of when it clicked for me and I was like, I get it. Being there, hearing the cars in person, like seeing all of the people who came from all around the world, the sense of community was incredible.

It was just a really fun environment. And so that kind of clicked for me and I was like, all right, I’m in it. So mantra was my first race. Then I got to go to Silverstone, and then Kate and I lived next door to each other. So her and her boyfriend at the time now fiance, lived next door to my boyfriend and I in South Boston, and we were basically just like, come over.

watch the race with us. We like to spend time together anyway and we want more people involved to like come over and hang out. And so Kate will take over the story now. Yeah. So Nick and I started getting into it just because we would hang out with Nicole and Alex. And at [00:05:00] first I was like, Hmm, this is really just an excuse for me to hang out with my friends.

And like I don’t really care what’s happening on the tv. Like if you’re gonna feed me and also make me cocktails at 8:00 AM I will be there. And I don’t care about anything else. I mean, we were just there and Alex and Nicole were so into it that it was hard not to be on our end. And my fiance is huge into sports, so this was just like another sport for him to love.

So did you have like a cool name for it? Like Brunching with Bot ? I wish. No, it. Sunday brunch, I guess. Yeah. It was just, it was just, well, it was like our Sunday, couple friends day. Yeah. Uh, we had like, yeah, so we would just like, would watch the races in the morning and then hang out the rest of the day and like go get food and do whatever.

We got really into it. And then I think this was what, 2018 Nicole? Yeah. Was like when we first were getting into it, because I remember one of the first races I ever watched, Kimmy won. Yeah. It was Austin 2018. Yeah. And he won. And I was just obsessed with him. I was like, this dude doesn’t. , he doesn’t care that he just [00:06:00] won No emotion, was just like awesome.

And I was like, I love his vibe. I love this man’s vibe. I love him. Now he’s my favorite. After that is when Drive to Survive came out. And so we got a chance to like dive a little deeper into it and get to know the players a little bit better and team principals and the drivers and kind of everyone involved, which sealed the deal for us.

And then I’ll pass back to Nicole for the, the remaining part of the story before we passed. It’s to Nicole. Did you stick with Kimmy into his NASCAR era? I guess a couple months ago we really wanted to go to Watkins Glen. I don’t remember why we couldn’t Nicole. I think you had a bachelorette party.

You’re right. I had like, I had seven weddings this year and I was in a few of them and had bachelorette parties and every single weekend for the past like five months has been taken up. So we did want to go see Kimmy mostly cause I like wanted to see him, but I also really wanted to see his family cause mm-hmm.

Minu and the little ice cubes, they’re just the best . And so I was like, if they’re gonna be there, I have to be there. It’s unfortunately I was not [00:07:00] there, but I wish I was. So I just wanna clarify for the audience, Nicole, you were actually sort of physically involved with Formula One before drive to survive.

Yes. And then Kate came about it sort of through you guys, the fandom and drive to survive and then went to your first kind of in-person race after that. So it’s a bit of a, you know, yeah. One side or the other. Okay, cool. Right? Yeah. And so then my boyfriend at the time, and I went to Manza and I was thoroughly convinced we were getting engaged.

I know Kate was also convinced we were getting engaged plot twist. We. He has been cheating on me and we break up the night before the Grand Prix, so I’m like, well, I’m still gonna go to the Grand Prix because tickets are expensive and we’re here now. And so obviously I didn’t really enjoy my time in Manza.

I did see Charles La Claire’s last win at the time. Obviously he went through a dry streak, so I felt we were kind of cursed together. So after that, I came [00:08:00] back and rightfully so, I couldn’t really watch Formula One. My heart was broken, and so I kind of distanced myself from it a little bit. And then come 2020 season, obviously we have the Covid situation, everything shut down.

Kate basically came to me and she was like, Hey, I miss watching Formula One with you. Can we reclaim this and like make it our thing instead? Like, let’s go back to doing brunches. I think it’d be really fun if we did themed brunches around this. And I was like, absolutely. I’m ready to get back on the horse.

That summer when in 2020 when they were like, all right, we finally have gotten it together. We’re gonna start racing again. Kate and I were like, all right, well, we send each other so much Formula One content back and forth together. We might as well just start an Instagram page for it so that we can separate our main feed and not bother all of our friends with this Formula One content.

Let’s just find like-minded individuals through our dedicated Instagram, which is kind [00:09:00] of where two Girls, one formula came into play. It started basically because we were just working together out of my kitchen, and Kate turns to me and she goes, how funny would it be if we had a blog called Two Girls, one Formula?

and I said, I’m buying the domain right now. And that was the end of that conversation. , we literally didn’t think about it at all. Yeah, we may or may not have shot ourselves in the foot with the naming decision that day, but it’s stuck and that’s what we’re here with now. . It’s definitely unforgettable, I will say that.

And so, you know, our, our thought process around that is obviously that was a cultural moment. However you view it, everyone knows the reference, especially if you’re in a certain age group. And so we aim to be that viral moment within Formula One and just make sure that no one can forget who we are.

We’re gonna pause here for a second for our first pit stop question. And this one’s coming outta left field because if you do follow the two girls one formula, Instagram, there’s something very apparent outside of all the memes and the [00:10:00] shirtless guys and everything else is the discrepancy in your guy’s height, which makes you guys very similar to me and Brad.

So, Nicole, how tall are you? I am five nine. Ah, so Kate, then how short are you ? Uh, I am five, one and a quarter. There it is. Okay. A quarter. It’s quarter important quarter, not how short she is. It’s how less tall she is. Yeah. Yes. Cuz Brad tends to tower over everybody in our organization . So I, I feel you there, you know, scrolling through your guys’ Instagram.

It’s full of all sorts of interesting stuff, so Very cool. Thank you. Thank you. You know, the whole point of two girls was also a little bit of spite for my ex-boyfriend was that well I wanted to be so ingrained in this sport that he really wouldn’t be able to escape my success. So it started as a little bit of a revenge plot, but it has grown into something so much more beautiful and really impactful [00:11:00] for the Formula One and, and Motorsport community.

I have to thank him for. Breaking my heart because without it, we would not have two girls. One formula today, you know, for people who want more on that backstory, catch, you know, their first episode essentially . Yeah. And there’s even more to hear about this somewhat traumatic manza event. there. There’s a little Italian lady with an umbrella.

There’s a whole thing going on with that . That was a beautiful moment. I liked that. It was, it really, it really was. And for context, for anyone who’s listening, there was a moment, it was very theatrical. American in Paris. Sort of almost. Yeah, ex. Exactly. . I’m sitting at the bus stop waiting for my now ex-boyfriend to go figure out how we’re getting from the train station to the track.

It’s pouring rain. My jacket is not waterproof, it’s just water resistant. I’m soaked through. I don’t have an umbrella. I’m waiting at the local bus stop. You’re crying. I’m crying. This woman just comes up to me and she just like [00:12:00] doesn’t speak a lick of English. She just stands next to me and holds her umbrella over me.

And I was just like, this is one of those, like humanity is really good moments, . And so I think about her often. Any plan to return to get your vindication, as you said? Yes. We definitely need to reclaim Manza. We’re thinking we’re hoping to do next year. Nice. The Manza Grand Prix, just to reclaim it. Are you gonna stop by that bus stop?

I mean, it’s right outside. I think we have to, it’s right outside the train station in Manza where you take it if you’re coming from Milan and so it’s hard to miss, so I will definitely be passing by and saying a little prayer . Yeah. You should take your own umbrella in case it’s raining and then you should, you’re so right.

Pay it forward the next, yeah. You hide it over someone else. You’re so right. I’ll just leave it there for the next person too, with a little note saying Thank you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Since you guys are in the podcast biz as [00:13:00] well. , take us through the difference between episode one as we’ve sort of been highlighting here to your 50th episode.

Congratulations, by the way. Thank you. And here’s to 50 more. So what have you learned 50 episodes later? A lot, but also not that much. . You know, it’s funny, I haven’t really listened to our first episodes in a long time cause they just kind of make me cringe, because we literally had no idea what we were doing.

We had no scripts, no agenda, no like anything. We just would get, I mean, the first. Three episodes that we recorded, we recorded them all within a week at Nicole’s apartment in Brooklyn. I went there. Some of them we were just like laying in her bed. right here in this. In this room? Yeah, in that room. We were just laying there recording.

I don’t even know what we were talking. We had like grand plans. We were like, the first episode is gonna be about. And the second one is gonna be all about f1. And the third one is gonna be all about the people you need to know. And it was just chaos and they’re really [00:14:00] funny. I need to go back and listen to them.

To be fair. We literally were like, who knows how many of these episodes we’re gonna do? A couple of people had asked us to start a podcast and we said, all right, fuck it. We’ll do a podcast. And so we like Bob mics, we weren’t sure what equipment we needed, $15 off Amazon and we’re like, we’re just using our computers, these crappy mics.

We’ll see what happens. And I mean, I like to think that in the past 50 episodes we have kind of found our voice and our niche and exact to kind of what people care about. The ways to talk about things that are interesting but still educational enough that people know what’s going on. We still don’t totally do agendas, , we’re working on it.

We’re really trying. We do have like a shared notes app that we will like pop things in and we try to organize it, but it, and that doesn’t totally work. But I think we’re trying to learn how to do like segments and like segment our thoughts. I mean, the thing that I think people like about the podcast for us is that it’s very much just a [00:15:00] real conversation between the two of.

The conversations that are on our podcast are literally conversations that we have just like every single day on the phone. Like I will just like in the middle of the day, FaceTime Nicole, just cuz like, I am bored and we’ll just like talk. And afterwards we’ll just be like, that should have been a podcast episode.

Like that was funny, . Uh, so it’s just like, that’s just kind of how it, it feels. So in some ways I’m like, I don’t think we’ve learned too, too much because we haven’t really tried to be anything that we weren’t when we started the podcast. But I do think, hopefully, A little better where I think we’re a little better at editing.

Yeah. I think Nicole has really honed her feels in editing the podcast . Um, because we used to only get comments like, your sound quality is so bad, . Well, I think there was one of the episodes where you guys were like, you should really listen to this and like, two x. And I’m like, what? I’m like, okay. Like, all right.

But I will say that it’s kind of funny how when we all get started, we sort of have a similar story. I bought the cheapest thing I could find at Walmart or on Amazon and we just threw it up against the [00:16:00] wall and, and saw what stuck. Right? And, and the same thing Brad used to always say, you know, it’s kind of BSing in the basement.

And I think we all apologized for our first season, right? We’re kind of like, yeah, it wasn’t great, but you know, it got me to where I am today. I will say, Tanya pointed out as we were all reviewing and, and following your show, that there has been a big transition. You can see it, the show has matured quickly in 50 episodes, so you guys are definitely on the right track and we’re really curious to see, you know, how that perpetuates.

Thank you. Thank you. One of my favorite episodes was the road trip, one of the most recent ones. The, the road trip from Dallas to toss. The sound quality was great on that one. , I’m sorry, the mic didn’t stick to the steering wheel for you though. Oh, my , that was probably the funniest thing that’s ever happened.

We were so probably like, this is perfect. Like I had it in the steering wheel, like perfectly hooked up and then immediately had to back up and like back out of my parking and try to like turn the wheel. So the, the microphone is like [00:17:00] spinning and the cord is pulling and the laptop’s moving and we’re like, this is a disaster.

I think the road trip episode is a perfect, like encapsulation of our brand a little bit. Mm-hmm. where it was just, We are getting the authentic us and I, you know, people were comment giving, like replying to us and they were like, this has been my favorite episode yet, because it’s just so chaotic. , did you guys have like a camera hooked up watching you guys?

It would’ve been funny to see Nick in the back seat. . No, we, we should’ve, we had grand plans to like go pro and like do all of this and then we just never got our shit together in time to like do it. Yeah. I mean we were listen sitting just like murderer podcasts the whole time and just like singing musicals.

Like that’s, that was the vibe. Like I wish we had a camera because. Phil have been like, that’s what you guys are doing. I’m, I was just like driving one hand, holding a microphone. Like anyone that drove by us was definitely like, what’s happening in that car? ? It was, Nick was just laying across the back seat.

It, it was two girls, one car. I mean, come on. [00:18:00] Yeah, exactly. It really was. It was fun. And I think, you know, we’ve learned a lot. We’ve had the opportunity to have a handful of guests on the podcast and so I think we’ve also learned how to be better interviewers and like how to. Guests who are gonna be like enticing and interesting for our audience members.

We’re continuing to grow and, and learn in this space just like you guys probably are as well. Now you guys live apart, you guys used to be, you know, next door neighbors, right? So could get together, do your brunches, your lunches, your late afternoon, maybe even middle of the morning, 2:00 AM depending where the race was being held.

What are, uh, some food tips for people if they wanna hold a little F1 brunch? Did you guys have like actual themed per race or was it like, it’s Brazil, so we’ve got something Brazilian. It’s Italy. We’re getting pizza. Yeah, it’s started out. Pretty simple where we would just, we would say, okay, race is in Russia, so like, let’s look up what people in Russia usually have for brunch and we’re gonna make it.

And then [00:19:00] you ordered something else, right? Because, no, we made them, we didn’t, we had white Russians at 7:00 AM Ah, that, hey, like dude, Rod’s listening now. He got his attention. You have my attention. That is the drink of choice. Yes. Because this all happened, like when the pandemic. Kicked off, and so I was living actually here on the Cape.

My parents live here and I live on their property now, but we were here living with my parents for a while, and Nicole basically came and lived with us. Too much to the chagrin of my parents. We would be up at like the crack of dawn, just making the most. Random foods that everyone was like, what is this?

One of them? I forget what it was from, I think it was like Aer Baja. It was the, the sweet ver noodle the leaf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You, you knew exactly I was going . It was like noodles that were like coated and cinnamon sugar with an omelet on top. Yeah. Delicious. But so strange. And we’d be like, [00:20:00] surprise everyone.

We made brunch. This is your breakfast. And everyone’s like, what are you serving us ? So that was really fun. You know, over time we kind of formalized it and figured out a better way to do it. So now, on our Instagram page every Tuesday before a race weekend, we will post a menu with some like traditional foods, but accessible foods.

So nothing that’s gonna be like, you can only make this if you’re in Brazil, that country. Yeah, just like things that like you can pretty easily adapt and hopefully you have most of the things in your pantry, if not, like most grocery stores will have them around the world. So we’ll do like some snacks and appetizers, some main courses, and at least one drink that’s like kind of traditional to that country.

And then we’ll also share some facts about the track and the race itself, and then the country that they’re racing in, just so people can kind of eat the food, but also appreciate the culture and hopefully learn something. So yeah, if anyone’s looking to do a. Watch long party and cook something. We [00:21:00] have got you covered with menus for every single race.

Yeah. And we’re lucky enough to have an audience from around the world. And so we’ll ask for advice from people who live in those countries. What is something traditional that you think we should include in the menu? And so we oftentimes get a lot of really good responses from that. And so that kind of helps us build our menu as well.

So, have you guys figured out what the actual drivers are eating? Quinoa and ? Uh, lettuce protein bars, and that’s it. They gotta stay lean. Yeah. , they’re not eating anything, basically. Um, we’re good having all the fun . And that’s a lot of quinoa to get the calories in. I mean, I wouldn’t wanna to eat a whole bunch of flaming hot nachos before going out on track either.

So, I mean, did you do it anyway? and a Red Bull, right? Or no, I’m sorry. A rich energy aribo. Gummy bears. You’ve gotta have a rich energy. Yeah, there go Or we’re, we’re a rich energy family over here. Our diet is very simple here. It’s monster fake Newton’s and Haribo gummy bears. Ooh. I mean the three major food groups.

That’s all you mean. Yeah. You gotta add the yare when [00:22:00] the track goes cold. Yes. After the checkered flag, you add the Yeager a hundred percent . I love that . Yeah. So brunches, you know, kind of whatever, and, and I used to do it together now, so. We trade off. Like Kate has mentioned, she’s been very, very busy.

I’m in a lot of weddings, so I also, uh, have a deep passion for cooking. So more often than not, I’m the one who’s cooking. Yeah. She’s way better, she’s way better at cooking than I am, so, you know, I’ll just, I’ll take the opportunity to do that. And since Kate and her fiance Beyonce live on the Cape, they don’t have as many people around.

So sometimes I’ll make a really big spread and invite a bunch of people over. Nice. To enjoy the spread and to also convince them that they need to start watching Formula One as well. So it’s a little bit of a trap. You’re an evangelist that way. Exactly. So if I can get you up and Adam by 9:00 AM for food at my home, then you’re trapped here and you have to watch the race.

All right, so second pit stop question. Do you guys have a bucket? Of any [00:23:00] car, any track you want to see or be at your ultimate F1 race, what is it? A, I’m not super knowledgeable on a variety of cars. I know names and that’s basically it. And I’m also not very good at historical like versions of the F1 cars.

I can’t say that I have like a dream car, but. , I would love if the Nuremberg ring came back because that is one that I am dying to go to. So maybe if there is another series going on there, I’ll make my way over there to go see it, just because I think it’s a beautiful, beautiful track. I would love to go to Suzuka and Singapore.

I think those are the two that I would just like love to go to. I think they’re so fun. Like I would love to see Singapore like at night. Mm-hmm. . And I think it’s just such a cool city and I love the vibe that F1 brings to cities. And I think the ad at Singapore will be crazy and I just think Suzuka is so fun.

And those are the two I think that are. The most bucket list [00:24:00] because I think they’ll probably be the hardest ones for me to get myself to. I’ve got a photo somewhere of a part of the Singapore track from my hotel room when I was there a number of years ago. Cool. Like you could, you could just see like, oh, the bumpers and like it disappeared under whatever, like bleachers to the soccer stadium or something.

Oh, that was, it was pretty cool to see that. You’ll have to find it and, and shoot us an email with it. I’ll have to dig deep part Brad and I wanna do, uh, dueling GTIs at ya marina. So it’s a whole Yes. Whole different experience. . Okay. Yeah. , as I mentioned at the top of the conversation, I have yet to watch a single moment of drive to survive.

But you guys are both fans and you’ve been to races in real life. So let’s do a little bit of this versus that. Drive to survive versus i r L or in real life, what do you guys think? Okay, so here’s the thing. I know drive to survive gets. A bad rep. People who have watched it before get angry that there’s so many drive to survive fans.

However, as [00:25:00] someone who didn’t have anyone in their life who watched it before, I just had my boyfriend and I, and I was desperate for my friends to be a part of this. I am grateful that Drive to Survive came around because it welcomed so many new people into a sport that is historically kind of tricky to get into.

There’s a lot of terminology that you can’t pick up right away, especially if you’re not in tune with car culture at all. It’s very technical. You’re kind of thinking, especially as an American fan, what do we have? We have nascar, we have indie car, and barely anyone knows about IndyCar. Well, now they do, but I feel like prior to that it was like just nascar.

So you’re like, okay, they’re going around in circles, whatever, you know? To have this show be an accessible way for so many of my friends and loved ones to be like, Okay. Like, I understand the appeal of this. I’ll wake up with you at 7:00 AM to watch this sport. So for us, we’re like, great. I love that. This is a tool in my toolkit to convince people, yeah.

To wanna [00:26:00] be fans of this sport. Do I think that you should also get your ass to a, a real race? Absolutely. Because like I said earlier, that was kind of the moment for me where it clicked, hearing the cars, feeling the environment, seeing the drivers in real life is just like taken from your screen and you really get to experience that.

Mm-hmm. now not everyone has the ability to go to a race. They’re getting more and more expensive and you know, some of them are in the far reaches of the globe. And so I think drive to survive is a great way for people to connect with the sport in America. We love stories and we love. tv and we love rooting for an underdog.

We like to get to know people’s stories, like, I mean, that’s why reality TV is so huge. Like we like to know everything about people and about things that we care about. And so I think drive to survive kind of hit the nail on the head in order to. Get American fans involved and invested because you can watch races and you can watch press conferences and you can be like, oh, like [00:27:00] so-and-so does this a lot and like I know this person.

But to have drive to survive kind of going behind the curtains, even if it is a bit contrived, it’s obviously not fully real conversations, but I don’t think they’re fake. Mm-hmm like I think the situations are real and maybe it’s just like, uh, we’re gonna film you guys talking about this so you’re not gonna have like a totally natural conversation.

To be able to have that, to be able to get to know different people involved in the sport is huge for people to get invested and choose someone to care about cuz you can see their personality a little bit more. Like Nicole said, a great educational tool for people that have no preconceptions about what this is.

I personally have been trying to get more into other motor sports since, you know, loving f1 and I really wanna get into Motog, like I want to be like a huge fan of Moto gps. So badly For those that don’t know what that is, that’s the formula one of motorcycle racing. Mm-hmm. Motorcycles. Mm-hmm. . Yes. I wanna be a big fan of motor gp.

Really bad. I think the athletes there are so cool and so [00:28:00] fun and like are a little bit more like personality and spirited than F1 drivers. Like they just feel like they have such huge personalities because they’ve got much huger balls. Yeah, exactly. Huge . Yeah. They’re like, oh, I just broke the entire right side of my body, but like I’ll be back in three weeks.

And I’m like, that’s crazy to me. So does this play into the whole, you know, Hemsworth when he was playing James Hunt and the quote for Rush where he is like, women are attracted to race car drivers cause they’re so close to death. So do, do the motorcycle guys like maybe take it to the next level that they’re eating?

I think they do. Because I’m like, yeah, and let me tell you, they work out to be able to have that core strength . But for me, I was like, I’m watching the races and I tried to just like dive in and be and like follow people on Instagram and watch the races and I was like, I have no idea what’s going on.

And things are happening so fast. , the announcers are talking so fast, I don’t really know what’s going on. Amazon Prime did a series on motor GP that was very similar to drive Survive. [00:29:00] It was awesome for me to be able to watch that and like get to know who the different riders are and who the different teams are and kind of the dynamics between them and how things work and like what is big drama there and like what is something to watch out for and like if that happens, like that’s not normal.

Or like if someone falls off a bike, that’s pretty normal in a race where like in f1, I feel like if there’s a really big crash that doesn’t happen every single race, but in Motog it’s like, it’s pretty common. I feel like we just like canceling Haas altogether. I mean when don’t we get to that later? But there’s literally a wreck every race they, they wreck before the race though.

During I was the race. Look at Laki. Yeah. Semantics. Now I see what we’re doing. I see what we’re doing. But at the same time in F1, if there’s a big crash it like. halts the race. Yeah, you, I mean, there’s safety cars with motor gp. They’re just sliding off the track and they’re just kind of, you’re good because it’s not like a huge car with like things they’re just like on their butt sliding across.

I think that driver survive has its value in the [00:30:00] way that Motor GP series had for me, that I was able to like get more into it and like understand the ins and outs a little bit better as someone had no knowledge about it. So, it’s funny you say that because I’ve also heard the counter-argument that there are other sanctioning bodies of motorsport that are trying to replicate the drive to survive success formula.

One of those being nascar. Mm-hmm. . And unfortunately it has failed miserably. Does it have more to do with the personalities? For the discipline because NASCAR doesn’t need a reality TV show. It already is a reality TV show . Exactly. To embrace his identity. Yeah. I mean, I’m sorry, what do you mean? They had Ricky Bobby, they had that movie years ago.

That was the documentary. Exactly. It was a documentary. It was a thunder too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I think NASCAR has a certain. Brand that is very different to what Formula One brand is, right? Like Formula One is elite motorsport, it’s [00:31:00] for super rich people. It’s an aspiration to be able to go to these races like you see the celebrities.

Obviously in America, we have an obsession with celebrity culture, whereas I don’t think that that reflects the same as it does in NASCAR where it’s like you’re drinking bush light in your cutoff. And your sunburn and it’s trashy and that’s fine. And I think it’s great. I’d love to go to a NASCAR race that’s, and and experience that and that’s its charm, but it’s very different.

And I think people think about when F1 kind of blew up and they’re thinking about the Austin Grand Prix and we think about last year and all of the like crazy stupid American stuff that they made the F1 drivers do. And the rest of the world was like, look at the Americans and like look at how dumb they look with our elite motor sport.

Think a lot of people just considered F1 to be similar to nascar and that’s kind of why they didn’t consider it a fun sport. , but now they see that it’s different. Yeah. But I think F1 is the gateway drug into other motorsports, and we’ve seen that with our [00:32:00] community and that so many people come in through drive to survive, through f1, but then are like, okay, I’m interested in IndyCar, I’m interested in the feeder series.

I’m interested in, yeah, Moto gp. And so like our Discord has channels for basically all types of motorsport because they’re eager to learn, because they’re interested in Formula One. So I’m definitely picking up on that. And I can honestly admit that I’ve converted a lot of people to multi-class endurance racing.

Okay. Mm-hmm. , because these were like diehard Formula One people, and they watched their first sale in six hours or 12 hours of Seabring, or the Rolex 24. Mm-hmm. , even Lamonds. I’m like, how did you live this long? And not watch one of these endurance races, but when they watch it, Oh my God. The action and the passing and the strategy, and there’s all this stuff going on, and it’s just super chaos and it’s not 90 minutes of a conga line because that’s what a lot of diehard F1 fans are faced with.

They’re like, wherever you qualified is where you finish this part. Don’t talk about Alonzo like that. You know, [00:33:00] my thing is I can’t watch spec racing anymore, right? Yeah. I gave up on Formula One really after the V 10 era. Okay. So in the old days you had a mix of stuff. You could do vhs, you could be six turbos, you could have six wheel Teals.

Mm-hmm. , they were at the cutting edge of technology. Now it’s like, well, there’s three chassis builders and three motors, and we debate this all the time. So for me, I see it as, I hate to say kind of boring versus multi-class endurance racing. Mm-hmm. , you’ve got Porsche and Ferrari and Corvette and Lotus and whoever and all these people.

It’s kind of cool to see them going at each other and you can distinctively tell the difference between. . The other thing I kind of take issue with, with Drive to Survive, since we’re speaking candidly about this, and I don’t bring it up too often on the show, but he’s never watched . It’s because maybe I’m a little bit of a purist because I feel that drive to survive ripped off truth in 24.

Because if you look at what. , Audi, Netflix, and Jason Statham did many years before Drive to Survive came out. It’s a condensed version of Drive to [00:34:00] Survive, and so it’s nothing new. Mm-hmm. , but I’ve also felt like Formula One didn’t need this. It’s sort of like when we talk about mm-hmm. celebrities partnering with certain brands and we’re like, we didn’t need you to tell us that this car manufacturer was cool.

It was already cool. Well, here’s the thing I will counter with saying that F1 didn’t need that because they did need that because F1 was a failing brand with Bernie and Liberty Media bought it and their stakeholders were like, you gotta make money. and they said we gotta expand the American markets and how can we do that?

And they said Netflix. Exactly. And Netflix brought in all of the money for them and they turned that frown upside down. And now F1 is a booming company for them. I hope Netflix got a good cut cuz F1 owes them something. Exactly. So I think the sport was stale and I think before Liberty came in, social media was not a thing that drivers were really allowed to participate in.

They kind of. Formula one [00:35:00] drivers and you didn’t know them outside of that, and now this whole new version of Formula One has kind of come to the surface. And so I agree with you. I do think that sometimes it’s a little bit boring, but I think that it’s only gonna continue to evolve whether or not people agree with this.

You, Eric, with the purest situation in that I think a lot of decision making is gonna go into it to make it, and we’ve even seen. Abu Dhabi last year with the Lewis and Max finish, that things are gonna start to happen for dramatics and to make it more of an exciting sport to watch at maybe the detriment to the driving itself.

We are used to now having this very, you know, I think of the Bachelor season, the most dramatic season yet, which is how, I think Formula One is like starting to feel that way. It’s a dangerous line that they need to not cross. Super becomes nascar. Right. Drama. They almost crossed it last year at Yeah, the final raise.

Yeah. I had mixed feelings about that. Exactly. So, you know, but if you think, okay, if that had finished under a [00:36:00] yellow flag, that that would’ve been so anti-climactic to. A pretty exciting season. Obviously the way that it finished was shitty, and so I think there’s still a a lot of things that need to be kind of ironed out, but it’s interesting.

And to your point, there’s no way, I don’t think this many Americans would be on the F1 bandwagon without that show. No, no, no. Because right now I think there’s rumor that the Las Vegas race next year could possibly be bigger, more expensive than Monaco. Oh, I believe that. I believe that a hundred percent.

And that’s drive to survive. Yeah, a hundred percent. Here’s my problem. We’ve gone to some F1 racism person. I still watch them occasionally. Again, I don’t subscribe or watch Drive to survive, but what I take away from that is there’s all that hype and the drama, and he keeps the excitement going throughout the season.

But if you take that away, formula One is still boring. , like the racing to me, is not as exciting as some of the other disciplines like MotoGP, like W E E C or Im s a or some of [00:37:00] the other ones where there are these real battles and you’re rooting for a manufacturer that you can identify. Because if you can tell me the difference between the alpha tar, the Red Bull, and a Toso, God bless you.

Because to me it’s like watching spec Miata racing. They’re all the same. Well, I’ll say this is kind of where we come in. We care deeply about the individuals as well. Right. Which makes the sport not so boring for us because we’re like, we wanna know what Pierre’s doing the whole weekend. Yeah. We wanna see what outfits Lewis is wearing to the track because like we care about not just the action on the track, like we care about everyone involved in the sport as well.

Gives us a lot of content to talk about, right? Like we talk about the wives and the girlfriends. Yeah. And we talk about things like peripheral people in the sport, like they’re trainers and like if we were just watching for the racing, yeah, I’d probably be pretty bored. But the fact that we have kind of an emotional investment into the people behind the sport.

Gives more value. Yeah. To [00:38:00] the sport as a whole. I think it’s like priorities and true interests and like mm-hmm. what you care about the most. And like I think that if you’re someone that really cares about cars and auto manufacturers and evolution in that space, then yeah. Formula probably right now is super boring because they have cost caps, they have only a certain number of manufacturers, they have all these things that’s like, there’s not a ton of innovation happening really.

So I can see why you might be bored by that. Yeah. But I think that if you’re kind of in it for the lighter side and for the people, then it, it’s not super boring. So I think it’s just kind of which way you are looking at the sport from for that. So here’s what you have to do, Eric. You only need to watch like the first 10 lap.

It’s super exciting. You’re like, damnit. Mm-hmm. . Ferrari’s got this, they’re gonna do it and then some shit happens and then you’re done watching. You can just walk away. Exactly. . Yeah. And then maybe the last lap. Just in case. Just in case. And I can watch that dude on YouTube. And that’s all I need. [00:39:00] Dude does the funny impressions of everybody go on from there.

Yes. Connor. Connor. Exactly. He’s so funny. I’m a little jaded because I grew up in a certain era. The Group B rally era, the Group C prototype era and Formula One at the height of Senna and Pro. Yeah. There didn’t need to be Drive Sur. Right? For Survive. Back then you knew that every event, pros and Senna.

Were literally like good and evil. They were trying to take each other out all the time, and you could see it in their driving and you could see it in the post session interviews and this stuff. There was just this anger, there was this angst and there was this emotion that was captured without the need of all the drama.

But then again, that was the eighties and the nineties and it was a totally different time. Right. Yeah. So I, I get it. I get it. But it does kind of lend us into talking about the past. . Yeah. So has your increase interest in Formula One in the modern era? Have you thought about going back in time and seeing where its origins are from there?

You know, some vintage f1 and not even just the racing [00:40:00] itself, which I know is what Eric would, you know, be interested in, but like there’s a lot of drama back then as well. I mean with the laa and Hunt and mm-hmm. . Yeah. You know, and pros and I mean, have you gone back and looked at any of that? Yeah, I don’t know if you can see, have this photo of James Hunt on my Okay thing here.

But we have a friend, Elizabeth Ack, I don’t know if you are familiar with her. We had a conversation with her. Yeah. So she is a huge vintage F1 fan. She says, really solidified for her was Rush, seeing Chris Hemsworth play, James Hunt was it for her. And so we had her on, we used to stream on Twitch over the summer and she came on and did a whole presentation for us on all of her vintage F1 fits.

And we looked at all of the drivers and all of the best outfits from all of the eras. That was really fun for us, and I think we’re starting to explore the more historical side of F1 because obviously we’re in it all the time, but as we continue to grow and learn with our community, we’re like, okay, well let’s take a step back and like see how we [00:41:00] got to where we are today.

Leaning into that and learning more about the different eras of the cars is something I think we’re looking forward to exploring more during the off season . So if you. Caught up on any of the documentaries that are out there on some of the older stuff. Like okay, you could loosely say Rush Hunt versus La

Definitely a good film to watch. Like Netflix has got a couple, they’ve got the Senna documentary. Mm-hmm. that goes or that. I don’t know if you guys have seen that. Yep. Yeah. Then there’s even the older one, I think it’s still out there, the one Manuel fio. I haven’t seen that one. So that’s even, that’s like origin story way back essentially.

So that’d be another good one. If you’re looking to, and you know what’s really great about the FIO documentary, which I wrote an article about a couple years ago when it came out. It debuted right at the beginning of Covid. And one of the things they did in that episode is one of our new favorite pits sock questions, which is Go or Gofi.

And so they ask a lot of the drivers who is the greatest of all time. So I wanna pose that question to you guys as. Whatever you think that [00:42:00] definition is, and the answer is not goi, . Everybody has an opinion about who the who the guy, or it could be Goi. . Yeah. I saw that you all think the goi is quite attractive and you’re, you’re so, I mean, lemme tell you, we saw him in person and Yeah, we saw, we saw him and we’re like, so he’s, he’s one of those people that’s better looking in person.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. . Well, I have to say from the images that you all sourced for your Instagram post, they were. Favorable to him. , I, I was, yeah, streamer. Nicki really has got it going on. , unlike, what is it? DJ Lando. Dj Little Landy, what do you call him? . Okay. To answer the question about who the greatest of all time is, I think honestly I’m torn between Schumacher and Senna just because I think that they had such a cultural impact on the sport.

You know, you bring up Michael Schumacher to almost anyone, and they know that name doesn’t matter if they even know that he was a Formula One driver, like they most certainly like know who that person [00:43:00] is. And even just looking at his record of being the most winningest F1 driver tied with Lewis is really, I think it for me, and Senna obviously was, it’s a shame that he had to leave us so early cuz I can only imagine what he would’ve been able to accomplish.

And I would also be between two people, neither of the two that Nicole just said. I totally agree with what she just said and I think that like Michael Schumacher is a very obvious, like that’s probably who’s the greatest of all time in in the sport, but for. I kind of have three, so I’m really not playing my name right.

number one from a long time ago. I would say Nicki Lata, like I love his story. I think that he was an incredible driver, but I also just think he was an incredible mind for Formula One. And I think that he was so talented on the track, but equally, if not more talented off the track and the way that he was able to work on the cars and figure things out and be like, you’re doing this wrong and I can make this go faster.

Just let me do it. [00:44:00] And then to be able to come back and like have such a long career. Staying in Formula One, being an advisor, just working with these different teams and I think it just goes to show like the fact that he was still working with Mercedes when he died is just like, yeah, a testament to how valuable he was to the sport.

My second choice is Kimmy Reichen in, not just cuz he was my favorite, but I just think he’s the goat. Like he came in first season was just like, what if I just. everything. Incredible. And then he was like, all right, I’m gonna fuck off for a couple of years and like try something else just for fun. Comes back almost completely bankrupt.

Lotus. Mm-hmm. because he’s so fast. They were like, we don’t really know what to do because we don’t have enough money to pay you everything that we promised we would based on how many points you would get. Then he’s just like, nah, I don’t know. Maybe I don’t wanna do this anymore. Goes on. Just like continues winning continues being amazing and then just like decides to leave when, when he decided to leave and was [00:45:00] just like, you’ll never see me again.

And we basically have it . I think he’s been like one race. He was like, I’m done. I’m out of here. And he, he was a funny person. He was a funny like character in the paddock, kept to himself, always kept it interesting, but also didn’t like subscribe to the evolution of F1 and was just like, I don’t do media.

Actually, I don’t wanna do that and I won’t be on social media. You can try. , but I’m not giving you anything. And I think he just stuck true to who he was. And so I think he just, personality-wise, greatest of all time . And then my final person that I would put on this list that I think years from now, we will say greatest of all time, is Lewis Hamilton.

And I think that he’s had to do things in this sport that no one before him has ever, ever, ever had to do. Mm-hmm. , he’s had to overcome so much. And he’s also been the biggest star in the timeframe of f1, where F1 is global on social media, it’s 24 7. You’re not just being looked at through the eyes of a newspaper or a camera [00:46:00] crew on the weekends and you know people that are there, but you’re being looked at by everyone all the time no matter what you’re doing.

And I think he’s handled it really well and has had incredible. And has kind of always done things with grace. And so I think that in 20 years from now, when we look back and ask people this question, he’ll be one of the top names that people say. Yeah, I mean, I don’t disagree. , it sounds like you might . I mean, just a, just a touch.

I mean, Hamilton has had an interesting evolution because if you go back to the early days, especially when he was a young pup and they had him on top gear, you know, a star in a reasonably priced car and things like that, when he was first starting out, he was very different than he is now. Yeah, right.

And they say money changes people and And fame. And celebrity as well. And then there was that kind of dark period in the middle of his career where he was like, I don’t wanna talk to anybody. He’s very standoffish. And he was trying to be like Senna. Yeah. Because Senna was very closed. He was very reserved.

Mm-hmm. . Senna didn’t talk a big [00:47:00] game. He would show up and just kick ass and that’s his style. But Senna is still, and I think always will be regarded as like a God and not a goat . Like he was superhuman. Oh, you’re adding a new category of oh hundred. a hundred percent. And even somebody like Tanner F who just recently drove Senna’s McLaren mp4 on a test date, he got outta the car.

He goes, I don’t know how this guy did it. Yeah, he was superhuman. The thing about Schumacher to Nicole’s point is that he was, Always in Senna shadow. He was studying Senna and he became good. He had a lot of time in the trenches. But what Offset s Schumacher as not a God or even a goat, he’s like a national treasure.

He was adopted by the Italian people. Mm-hmm. , right? Yeah. And so he’s this like point of national pride and there’s just, he’s an idol. He’s totally different. So he has the merit and the resume to be a goat. Again, I think he’s in a different category, just like [00:48:00] Fios in a different category, like Lada and Hunt.

They got the records and the personality and the panache, but they’re not, it’s not quite there. Right. And there’s other names that go there, even Andretti. Fit Aldi and others that are Formula One champions. Mm-hmm. . But it’s just like, there’s these, these other levels. I think Hamilton’s almost there. What hurt him is the 10 years that he’s been doing this and how much he hasn’t stayed the same.

Mm-hmm. Senna stayed the same. Schumacher stayed the same. FIO was always fonio. To your point about Kimmy, where Kimmy’s Kimmy and he always will be Kimmy. Yeah. . So that’s where I, I, I kind of diverge on that, but you’re, you’re making very valid points across the board, but Hamilton. Has had to change because of the way the world has changed over the last and the way he’s been treated by the world, his career, he’s gone from just like an F1 champion and, and superstar to like a social justice hero for the people that don’t have a voice.

And he’s using his voice for that. And I, you know, so he’s using the [00:49:00] platform and you know, Ecclestone’s gone, so the collar’s off and now people can do what they want and he’s using his platform to try and do good in the world. So that’s, he probably would have been doing those things before if he was able to.

I’m gonna be honest, I didn’t love Lewis that much when he was. Nico’s teammate. I just thought this guy is insufferable. I didn’t particularly enjoy his personality and then he did. I watched that show. Is it Larry David? I’m trying to think. And my next guest is, who is that? David Letterman. I would love, I would love to see Larry David do a late night.

Jose could remember David Letterman. And my next guess is, and Lewis was on it and I watched it and it was kind of a different side to him and I think that was kind of a turning point for him where they were kind of like, we’re changing your PR and we’re like diving deep into like this softer, more personal side of you.

And ever since then, I feel like he has been a different person who has been more [00:50:00] outspoken about his struggles and other people’s struggles. To your point, Brad, about like. Being a voice for people who don’t necessarily have access to the platform that he does. Speaking of insufferable people, uh, Russell , his teammate.

That’s personal opinion, but my God, yes. Yeah. I don’t like think that, and he might be the answer to this question, but I doubt it. Sexiest, f1 driver of all time. Let me tell you, I saw Jensen button in person in the paddock in Austin, and I was like, yeah, that man is handsome as fuck. He’s tall too. And I was just like, yeah, he’s top with the list for me right now.

But Mark Webber also is really up there too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A young Jackie ick. Will always do it for me. I’m too busy like choking down my laughter over here because I can guess for Tanya who it is and it’s not Zenna, it’s Nigel Mantle. She loves that. Tom Sellek mustache [00:51:00] drew. Mustache . Well, Caden and I were literally talking earlier today about we need the return of the short.

Yes. . David Coltart with Ben. No. Yes, the Chin. It’s the chin . It is quite impressive. I did walk by him one time, but no . I can’t say David Cohart is the sexiest F writer. Absolut. No, not, I can’t say that in Colt. Confidence. But I also will say young Jackie Icks, I love him, but also, and I’m gonna bring him up again.

Kimmy Reichen, he went through a phase when he was younger, he had longer blonde hair, that it was sometimes spiked, sometimes not. Sometimes there’s a little bit long. There’s one photo of him wearing a white wife beater. Tight pants and a fur coat. I dunno if you can say that, Kate. I don’t know if we call them that anymore.

I don’t know what else we call them. Tank dog. . That’s a wife feeder. Sorry. It’s, it’s, um, . I’m not saying character wise, but that’s what they’re called. . And [00:52:00] it’s like the best photo I’ve ever seen. And he went through a big fashion phase, so he’s my favorite. And I think, yeah, early two thousands. Sexy Kimmy was, you guys, you guys gotta go back in time.

Take a look at Eddie Irvine and Alex Zenardi and Damon Hill and some of those guys. Oh, Damon Hill is, here’s the thing, here’s the thing. You asked for the sexiest and I’m answering. I’m surprised you didn’t say the clerk. He’s beautiful. Okay. I think he’s like, yeah, he’s like gorgeous. He’s not sexy though.

He needs a couple more years to like mature into himself. Yeah. I’m like, I think he’s like too young for me to say that. He’s like the sexiest, his personality ruins it for me though. Not really fair. I, I, I don’t like the cleric as a person. All right. So before a fight starts. Yeah, exactly. Has F1 changed your appreciation of the car hobby, Nicole?

You said at the beginning you weren’t really interested in cars when this all first came about, so has your opinion changed a little bit? My ex [00:53:00] used to play this game where he would just see a sports car on the street and he would be like, do you think I would be hotter if I drove this car? And I would always be like, no, because I don’t care about sports cars that much.

I still don’t particularly care that much, I don’t think anytime soon I’m gonna get into like rebuilding my own car. But I think that I have. A lot more about the car hobby. There’s so much going on that I simply don’t have time to dive too deep into all of this because I will literally not have a life if I do that.

You just defined our entire show. Yeah. I still have to do other things and so that’s the extent of my car. Situation. What about you, Kate? Pretty much the same. I’ve never been super, super into cars. I think I have an appreciation for like nice vintage cars now. Mm-hmm. like, I think like looking at them, I’m like, I can recognize more cars on the street and be like, oh, that’s this.

That’s cool. Or [00:54:00] like, oh, that looks like an old version of like this kind of car. And like I know that that’s cool, but like I can’t totally tell you why. Nothing crazy like I am. Like I can tell that something is like a Corvette and like that’s pretty easy . But I did buy my first car, owned a car before, but I bought a car by.

Self for the first time ever this summer. And I did get the sport version . Um, so I feel like I probably wouldn’t have done that if I wasn’t into f1 . . I’m not gonna ask you what it was. I don’t wanna embarrass you. You know . Oh no. It’s a cool car. I love it. I’ll tell you, it’s a Hyundai Tucson 2022, the end line, which is their sport version

It has nice red piping around it for Ferrari, for me, , and it has sports mode that if I want to go, I can click a little button and I’m in sports mode. the Ds. Exactly. Yes. What Ds is enabled exactly. It’s your encyclopedia. Car design is expanding as you continue to dive [00:55:00] deeper into the hobby. Normally we would ask people, you know, sexiest carve all time to kind of go in line with our sexiest F1 drivers who we were talking about

But I think it might be easier to ask you this other fan favorite. What’s the ugliest. Car all the time. Kia Soul. Damn. That was Class . That was a first. I’m sorry. Was that your first car ? No, I just think they’re so, so hideous. Like you are never, ever, ever, ever gonna see a normal colored Kia soul. It is always gonna be that puy lime green.

Yeah. Or shit brown. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just always the ugliest color. And I’m just like, who’s buying these? Like how did they get you to buy this car? It’s so hideous. All I can think about is that when I was looking to buy a car this summer, I test drove one and it was this horrible red, it was like bright, bright, bright red.

But it was, it was, oh my God, it had this weird shimmer to it. I hated it so much. And they were like, this is the only one of these we have like this car that’s like here because there’s like no cars anymore because there’s import craziness [00:56:00] happening. I don’t know. And I was like, okay. I love it. Hate this color.

And the guy was like, well, when you’re driving it, you won’t even know that it’s red. You’re like, that’s not, and I was like, that’s a horrible, horrible, horrible sales tactic to say to me. I’m not. I’m behind this on principle now because you just said that to me, . But that’s how I feel like they get people to buy Kia Souls.

They’re like, you can basically have this for free. You just have to know that it’s puke green with shit around. I’ll pay you to take this . Literally, they’re like, please take this from us. I think that’s a pretty good one. I don’t know. If I feel as passionately about any, I feel more passionately towards colors of cars and I really hate when people have like burnt orange because I’m like, why would you choose that color out of all of the colors that you could have possibly gotten for a car?

It’s like the number one color that the Honda Element was sold in. So it’s so ugly. . So I, I think Kia sole. Yeah, I probably, cause I just think of the hamster commercial. I’m [00:57:00] like, which isn’t even a good commercial. I know. Like, how does that help sales? I’m like, you’re getting weird hip hop hamster rats.

Like, why are we. What’s the it, what are you saying? It’s like the rap of the rapper on this PlayStation. Yeah. Who, who is the market for that commercial? Yeah, exactly. Clearly at we people are still buying Kia Souls today, so Yeah. Everybody that surrounds Kate is buying key. That’s because they’ve been sitting on the lots for so long.

There’s nothing else to buy it, so there’s nothing else. I know. I’m like, I’m on Cape Cod, so I’m in like retirement country too. I’m like, this is old people, bamboo. They’re, they’re just getting swindled into these Kia Souls. It’s like a bait and switch . They were guaranteed one card and then they got delivered a Kia Soul and they don’t know what to do about it.

Say, just keep it, I’d know it. . There’s no one out there that’s willingly buying a Kia Soul. And if you’re one of those people, please contact me. I, I have to talk to you. It’s our next crossover episode. We that together . It’s an intervention for anyone who’s bought a Kia Soul . I need to like talk to the president of the Kia Soul fan club or something.

I guarantee you there is one. There [00:58:00] is one for sure. Bring them there. I’m gonna bring them to therapy with me and be like, I need to get to the bottom of your brain. . Oh yeah. So, so, so back on topic . As we’re closing out the 2022 season, what are some of the best moments, worst moments in your, in your opinion?

Great question. Best outfits. Worst outfits. It’s so funny cuz we actually just ran this pole on our Instagram where were like over the 2020 season. Yeah. What were the best moments for. obviously. I think one of the ones that comes to mind is Danny arriving in Austin on the horse. You know, I’m gonna really miss, so classic his theatrics in the paddock when he’s gone.

Thinking about, you know, one of the most impactful moments for me personally was Joe’s Crash, where he flipped over and then basically like slid into the barricades. That’s right. He ended up over the barricade and slid and sideways on the, and then George got out of his car and like ran over and was like trying to call for help and was like, didn’t leave until someone had gotten there.

That was, [00:59:00] that moment was crazy. Huge momentum about like the safety features that had been implemented in the sport. Mm-hmm. and just proving that these are necessary and like how lifesaving they actually are because he would’ve been so dead if the halos had not been implemented. And so for me that was very cool to see.

even though the drivers rallied against the halo for so long, I think they’re finally like, okay, this has saved people’s lives a handful of times. Yeah, I think we can get over it. So yeah, that was a really, really memorable moment from this season for me. I loved when Charles was leading the championship for a little bit.

You know, there was a, there was a month or so, uh, that he was doing that and that was huge for me. And also I loved the return of Kevin Magnuson. Mm-hmm. , I mean, best part of the season was when they said, Nikita Masine isn’t coming back. , I was like, number one, like no questions about it. Them saying he’s been terminated really did it for me.

But then them bringing Kevin Magnuson [01:00:00] back, I was like, Hey, Megan Gunther back together. Get in the game. The band back together. It was like really great for me, . And then the second best announcement was Latifi leaving . I mean, we were all waiting for him. It’s time for him to go. It’s time for him to go.

It’s pretty sad when your backup driver, you know, comes in for your teammate who’s out getting I appendicitis and scores points. Yeah. Yeah. That’s so tough on his maiden F1 race. Exactly. Yeah. Latifi, you know what? I’m glad that Latifi was in F1 for the sole fact that he kept Williams afloat for a while.

Mm-hmm. . And they really needed that . Yeah. So thank you to Latifi for that. But time to come. Time for you to move on. . Yeah, . And that brings us to, it’s amazing. They still exist. So let’s talk about the Toad Haas and Christian Horner. Oh, let’s talk about it. Brad’s three favorite things. No, I talked about rich energy all the time.

Oh, what’s the difference? One in the same. One in the same. We’re no MoneyGram. We talked about MoneyGram. Yeah. That’s their new. They’re new [01:01:00] sponsor. Probably nobody has kind words to say about any of those three. No. Here’s the thing, I’m actually an advocate for Haass. We love Hoss. Here’s why, and you’ll learn this and drive to survive if you watch it.

Eric, no, . Gunther is a girl boss. Okay? Mm-hmm. . Oh, Gunther’s awesome. Gunther said, I’m gonna be a team principal if it’s the last thing that I do. And he put his ass into gear and he convinced Gene Haas to buy a team and make him the team principal. Mm-hmm. , he seems like the most unlikely team principal person too.

with no prior experience, no qualifications. He was just like, I want this. He was like an engine, like I wanted a guy. So he kind of has a little bit of experience, but he basically was like, you know what, I’m gonna fast track this and I’m just gonna get someone else to buy a team for me time for this.

He’s basically like the land stroll of team principles where he went to Gene Hoss, got him to buy the team and install him as the team principal. And so I appreciate that about Gunther and I appreciate that about Haas. I think Gunther [01:02:00] continuously gets the shit beat out of him by how horrible his team is.

Still he rises in the words of Lewis and I just appreciate that about him. I also think Haass has no pretenses. They’re not trying to be, yeah. Better than they are. They know that they suck. They’re not gonna ever say they’re better than anyone. Or like on the bestest season when Gunther was like, oh, they’re talking about me.

That just means that they’re jealous when HA was like doing well for a little bit. He’s like, if there’s rumors starting about me, that means that I’m doing well. So keep talking . He was like, no presses bad. Press baby. And then they’re like, what if we took sponsorship money from these like tiny boats in like weird houses and we just like take pictures in front of them?

They’re like, we’re not too good to. That was for the oldie catalog. Yeah, they’re like, we’re not too good to take some photos for Aldi. , like it’s Hassa is never gonna say that they’re too good for something. Yeah. And I appreciate them for being self-aware and just being like, we’re the shitty team and we’re gonna do what it takes.

But on the other side of that coin is Williams who needs to fess up and quit being in denial about how they suck too. [01:03:00] But Exactly. They have a ton of pedigree behind them. And actually Haas does as well, because if you go back in time and look at when it used to be Newman, Haass racing, especially stateside and things like that, there is a lot of background to that brand.

Yeah. And to that family name. But to your point, I mean, we’re talking at the the bottom of the bottom. So what do you think about them potentially becoming someone else? You know, there’s all these rumors about Audi and Porsche and all this other, all these musical chairs going on. I think that they’ll be hos for at least another couple of season.

Until Jean is like, I have absolutely no more money to give to this. I have nothing I left to give. Andrei can come buy it. Yeah. And then everyone’s gonna say, no, Andrei, you cannot join F1 . It doesn’t matter. Right. Because they got a team and then they don’t have to worry about the money cuz they don’t have drivers.

Yeah. So they can hire. Mario Andretti, we already saw that as good. Osaka. Might as well put him in the seat and start at the Andretti franchise. That way Haass is like so dysfunctional, right? I mean, to go beyond what Kate was saying, let’s go there. You know, we already talked about he might [01:04:00] spin, or excuse me, Maza spin.

Mick Schumacher is on the unemployment line right next to Danny Rick. I know Kate and I just talked about that earlier today. We recorded our weekly episode and we were just saying not looking good for. So in the beginning of the season, yeah, there was a lot of crashing, but he’s actually been doing really well.

He hasn’t done that. Yeah, that bad. And Gunther basically gave him the ultimatum that, that he had to win a race to stay at Haass. And you’re like, that, come on. You’re like, that’s not even possible. Like you are asking him to do the impossible here, but, but is it though, because we speculated about this on several drive-through episodes where we said, what if you put Lewis or put Max in the HOS car to prove whether it’s the drivers or the chassis?

Okay. Well look at how Lewis has been doing in his current car. I do not think that he would do well in the hos at all. There’s no way. There’s no way. The Red Bull is like cheater program. They’ve got in it like, yeah, I think Max is, and so this is why I [01:05:00] think Caden and I have talked about this, why. 15 points ahead of Lewis is that George came from a shitty car, easier to go from shitty to good than good to shitty.

Yeah. And so he knows, he’s like, this is an increase. Like this is 10 times better than what I’ve been working with, so I can work magic on this. Meanwhile, Lewis is so used to being ahead and winning. He doesn’t know how to be in the middle of the pack in a kind of shitty car. Okay, so we’ll flip it the other way.

You put Mick on the test track in a Mercedes and all you need to do is look at his lap times. If he can’t qualify at the same level as the current drivers of those cars, then is it the driver or the car? I mean the proof goes either way. Yeah. Well it, to your point, it’s harder to put max in the HOAs because the HOAs is basically handicap.

Mm-hmm. compared to the rest of the, the cars in the fleet. But again, if we flip it the other way on a private testing day and he can’t put the numbers down, then he’s not qualified to be. . Mm-hmm. . I agree with that. Yeah. And I think that that would be a fantastic way to judge people. Everyone gets the same car.

It’s how it used to be done. Just [01:06:00] throw it out there, , bring it back. Bring it back. We’ll start the petition. There’s a lot of upheaval. I mean, that’s my outlook on the 2022 season with a lot of names disappearing. Mm-hmm. , who’s gonna be filling those seats again? You got Audi and Porsche can’t figure out.

Yeah, well, no, I mean, well, Porsche played a game that they lost at, and now they, they’re crying and they want back at the table. Audi is committed. I was gonna say, isn’t Audi coming in with, uh, red Bull did. Salur. Salur. Salar. So in 2026 they’ll be here. And I can’t wait because now I have to root for Audi.

And Ferrari . , you’re gonna be busy. Well, you’ll just have to root for whichever one is doing better. Exactly. Whoever’s in the lead I’m rooting for until they blow up twice the, uh, chances to root for a number two

again. But it’s chicanery all over the place. Cuz even there, some of those petitions have been, well, we’re gonna put stickers on the blah, blah blah chassis with the Honda Power [01:07:00] Plant. We’re like, well, is that really a Porsche? Like, what is that? Right? So I think there’s a lot of, I’m gonna, I’m gonna use a football phrase, it’s a rebuilding year

So hopefully 23 is a better year for Motorsport in general, especially Formula One. I’m really curious to see how it turns out. Now, granted, I have my sights on the big stage right now cuz. next year is the hundredth anniversary of Lamont’s. Yeah. So I think that’s gonna be Eclipse a lot of things Everybody’s talking about the new cars.

The new cars and new cars. Yeah. Formula One came out with their new cars this past season. We’ll see where that goes. So in listening to your, you know, most recent episodes you were doing the uh, I guess the press conference, the drivers, and you all caught Pierre taking a picture of you guys, . Did you happen to get a copy of that picture and do we know what he was taking a picture of?

Yes, we did get confirmation. He was taking his BE Reel. And now, I don’t know if you guys know what Be Reel is. It’s an app that basically at some time during the day, you get a notification. You have two minutes to take a photo. The story goes, you know, as you heard [01:08:00] in the podcast, Kate and I were sitting in the room.

I look up, Pierre is taking a photo. We have a bit on our podcast that Pierre is TG one, F’S number one fan. Mm-hmm . He’s liked a handful of our Instagram photos. And this was before the heyday of. Liked by Pier Galey. We were actually also in his Miami GP photo dump as well. And so we’re like, Pierre loves us.

We were joking that he obviously saw us in the press conference room and had to take a photo of us . Of course, of course, of course. Your celebrities to him. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And he did post his Austin Grand Prix photo dump. Lo and behold, there was the Be Real photo and there we were . Nice. So we’re, we’re two for two on USG photo dumps for Pierre on Instagram.

I think he is your number one thing. I mean, what else is there to say? Like he’s not beating the allegations. Yeah, he’s not taking pictures of other podcasts. He just us and if he is, he’s not putting them in his public [01:09:00] photo dump. So you guys will be in the next. Promise. That’s fantastic. . So I guess shifting gears a little bit.

Pun intended or pun intended, totally , not the formula one. Cars have a traditional shifter anymore. They did in my day, . I walked up hill of both directions. A school sit up, boomer old man screaming at the clouds, freaking boomer . I will say I do wish they still had to use the, uh, clutch left foot. Yeah. For clutch.

Cuz it would make the races more interesting when someone misses a shift. . Yeah. Instead of calling on the radio and whining more Scher box. Can you change the program now? , y’all are talking about be reels. Eric doesn’t know what MySpace is. be real right now. You don’t know what MySpace is, ? No, he does. Okay.

I was like, he jokes. He jokes. I was like, we need to have a serious conversation. I just, I just , I refuse to do TikTok just like Roger survived. That’s fair. I don’t do that. Don’t go. That’s okay. Don’t go down that, that [01:10:00] rabbit hole. I don’t do TikTok either. Eric’s, his old fashioned is the rally that he watches.

didn’t. Rally is still a thing. Is it not in the us When was the last time there was a US rally? That’s one of the motor sports series that I wanna get into. I wanna get into rally racing. It needs a, it needs a drive to survive. . It doesn’t need, if, if any, motorsport needs a drive to survive, to rally . I’ll give you the shortcut.

It’s very simple. Download the Red Bull app. They condense everything for you. Okay. If you wanna watch the long format, you wanna get in the car with the drivers, which is super cool to watch them and the navigators doing their thing. Red Bull tv, everything’s shot in eight k now. It’s like super crystal clear.

It is fantastic. Okay, perfect. And I will give you one thing. If you wanna find a new fan, even though we retired last year and now he’s a team principal, go back and watch the in-car footage of Yari Mati lava. He is known as the mad man of W R C for a very good reason. Okay? I don’t wanna spoil it for you.

Okay, I’ll get into it. It’s awesome. Did [01:11:00] you get the sense of excitement? I did. And he’s sold me on it. And so I’m gonna go do that and then I’m gonna follow up later. You guys did not sell him on drive to survive. That’s okay. Point that out. No offense. You know what? We did our best and maybe one day we’ll wear him down.

Can’t teach an old dog new tricks. You know, zing, . So speaking of old dogs and new tricks, Besides drive to survive and all that kind of thing, you know, from your perspective, women in Motorsport, what can be done? It, it’s been traditionally kind of a boys club, right? The old dogs. , how can it be more inviting in your guys’ opinion?

You, you guys are making it more inviting with your podcasts. Well done. Kudos. But I guess outside of that, the greater motor sports industries, what do you think they could do? I mean, I think the first thing is just visibility. And I think there’s like, there are a lot of people that are out there that are like, we need more women in f1.

We need more women in f1. And I think that that is fair and we probably do, but I think even [01:12:00] more than that, we need just visibility into the women that are already in f1 that are already doing the work, that are already have made it there. And we need to kind of uplift those platforms and those women. I mean, the whole thing is visibility.

If you can’t see it, you can’t be it. And like people need to see representation in order to think that they have a chance. And, and you know, not everyone needs that. Some people can just like kind of take the bull by its horns and do it. But there are so many women that are already in f1 in various leadership positions in, in various team positions that I think it’s just recognizing them more and seeing them more from.

The teams. Red Bull has done a good job this year of highlighting Hannah Schmidtz, and I think that’s been great and huge for people to actually see, like recognition for someone in her position. But even press officers, even like heads of communication, Susie Wolfe is doing a great job just kind of like being more vocal and and being more kind of as a figurehead, but I think it’s these teams’ responsibility to showcase the different people that they have on their teams [01:13:00] and give them more visibility to people so we can see kind of who’s already in there.

So then once we can lift those people up and show their value and their worth and show people what’s already going on, then that just kind of opens the door for other people to think. , I could do this and I’m gonna pursue a career in this and, and try to get in there and have all of the same skills, same qualifications, and go in there and say, I’m gonna do this as my career too.

And not really think about it, not give it a second thought. To that point too, around visibility is like getting new fans in, right? Traditionally, like you said, it’s been a boys club because I think cars are traditionally built as a boys thing from, you know, a young age. Whereas women may get into it later and sometimes it’s a little hard to approach.

You’re later in life and all of these men have already been doing it and, and they know all this terminology and you try to ask questions and they make you feel dumb with our spaces, like there are no dumb questions. Doesn’t matter what your level is, as long as you are willing to answer other people’s questions [01:14:00] like.

Phenomenal. We have people in our community who have interests that range from how the financials work, to how the engines work and everything in between. And like they’re willing to answer any single question that anyone has, even if it’s just like, why does F1 cost so much money to, from like the bare bones type of questions and having these spaces.

Easy to ease into the conversation. Coming from the female perspective is just very crucial and I think, you know, F1, continuously putting out new resources about how to get into the sport and find people to connect with is. Crucial. So do you think the same thing exists as you begin to investigate other motorsports?

Kate mentioned motor gp. You know, we were joking about World Rally. We talked a little bit about sports, car racing. There’s so many different disciplines to Motorsport, whether it’s the off-road community, drag racing, et cetera. So do you see it in the same way as Formula One or have other [01:15:00] disciplines made more strides?

Honestly, I think that F1 is probably doing the best with women in the sport and as fans, but I don’t think that we’re seeing as much growth in the other areas other than I would say IndyCar is a close second because I think a lot of women feel that IndyCar is also very accessible and it’s kind of close to Formula One.

That’s generally the next path for them. But I would say that all Motorsport are facing the same problem is that they’re not doing enough to support the female fans and not doing enough to showcase. Women in leadership or higher roles within the organizations. All very valid points. I do think there’s a discipline of Motorsport that might actually be doing this better than IndyCar and Formula One, and it’s less recognized, although on the big stage, and that’s actually sports car racing, because if you look at it, the barrier to entry for female drivers is a, actually, you’re right, [01:16:00] yes, is a lot lower.

We’ll just look at last year’s lamonds with the Iron Dames and all the other females that are running on various teams at different levels from the production based cars to the prototypes and everything in between. So I think Sports Car is embracing women without making it apparent. They’re just doing it without bringing attention to it.

And here’s my biggest problem with the open wheel community. Formula W mm-hmm. , right? And as a father of girls, I look at it and go, why can’t Motorsport be co-ed? Why? Absolutely. Why does a formula w have to exist? Why aren’t these women running alongside of La Cleric and Latifi? I’m sure they’re all better than Latifi, you know?

And, and so I’m down the line. I don’t like that segregation where it’s like, it’s like the W N B A. Why can’t they just play with the men? And I hear the excuses on, I, I call them excuses, the justifications and rationalizations on both sides. But to me, in Motorsport, Motorsport’s always been about [01:17:00] run what you’ve brung.

It doesn’t matter who’s behind the steering wheel. And I think Formula One, in contrast to what you were saying, is actually behind the curve because Formula w. . No, I would agree with that and Kate and I have this conversation all the time that like I can kind of see the justification for the W N B A and the N B A because they’re playing on a more physical kind of level, whereas you’re driving the car, the car is not gendered.

You do not have to be a certain gender to drive a car. People always ask us about W series and like if we like it or not, and we’re like, well, we appreciate that there is something for women, but we don’t appreciate that it is seemingly lower than F three and it. That there’s no direct, there’s no direct pipeline.

Yeah. It’s seemingly no one wants to support these female drivers. No one wants to give them an opportunity. And so, yes, I a hundred percent agree with you on the fact that that is behind, it’s a check the box to say we’re being diverse and exactly inclusive. Like okay. Mm-hmm. , I mean, [01:18:00] that’s across the board with basically all their initiatives across diversity, , and to speak to the sports car world in terms of the path and the growth forward.

There is actually a path, again, they’re not doing a good job of advertising it mm-hmm. and putting in people’s faces. But as a female driver, you’re listening to just going, well, how do I get out of club racing with S c A and NASA into the world of, of sports car racing, if that’s what you like, go to World Challenge, you start touring car and then you work your way up to GT cars and then so on in the line, and then World Challenge is a gateway to IMSA and W E C and and so on down the line.

And so there is a progression path there. Yeah. But again, they’re not. In my opinion, not doing the greatest job of, of bringing it out there and saying, Hey, look what we’ve got Right. Comes back to visibility. Right? Yeah. And like showing people what the options are. Yeah. And showcasing that this is a path forward for men, women, whatever you are.

Honestly, that’s kind of our hope with the growth of two girls. One formula is that we’re expanding outside of just Formula One and showcasing all of the [01:19:00] different avenue. That are possible for women in the Motorsport world, but obviously we cannot do everything all at once. And so it’s definitely something we’re looking towards the future and helping gain some visibility for our mostly female audience to be like pure all of the options.

It’s not just Formula One if you’re interested in cars, like here’s how you can get involved and here’s a career path for you. Yeah, and one of the things that sort of rubs me the wrong way is when people say, well, when are we gonna see the first female Formula One driver? And we even talked about this not too long ago.

Tanya brought it up, she’s like, That already happened. Right? That happened in the seventies. Exactly. Yeah. Like what are you talking about? That’s, I think where I get frustrated is like, I think there’s a lot of people out there. We see a lot of like content creation around, like we need more women and we need a woman to be driving a car.

And like, we need to see the first female F1 driver and like, we need all these things. And it’s like, we’ve been there and we’ve had these things, so let’s celebrate them. Let’s talk about them. [01:20:00] Let’s bring that back into conversation so that more people know that that has happened. And then because we’re talking about it, there’s seen to be a demand for it.

Mm-hmm. . And that’s only going to show people that are in power, that there’s a demand for it, there’s a need for it, and that people are looking for that to happen again. And I think honestly, it’s just kind of disrespectful to the women that have already been there. Yeah. And have already done the work and.

Done these incredible things to say like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did that, but we need another one right now. And like, we need to be in there and like, we need more of this. When it’s like, don’t discount what’s already happened. Like don’t discount progress that’s been made. And, and even if you’re hasn’t been as good and like maybe it hasn’t been like prolonged and the sport hasn’t taken hold of it, like don’t take that away from the people that have already.

had those accomplishments and been the first Formula one female driver, or been these people that have done these things because to discount those and say that that’s not enough is saying that those people are not enough. And I think that is like the [01:21:00] problem that I have with a lot of the discourse around this.

Mm-hmm. topic. Mm-hmm. . And I think that’s where organizations like women in North America or wna, who you know Yeah. Is headed up by Lynn St. James and other veteran female racers is setting itself apart from a lot of these other organizations like you’re talking about, that maybe are a little bit more superficial.

Look at us, look at us. You know, we’re, we’re starting the trend. It’s like, no, the trend was started a long time ago. Exactly. With people like Michelle Muan and Janet Guthrie and, and Lynn herself and other people, and they’re. This is how we need to do this, ladies. This is how we get the job done. Yeah. And so I look to those organizations as inspiration, hopefully for the future and, and that we get the word out there that it exists and that women can go there as a useful resource to building their career in the motor sports industry.

Absolutely. Yeah. And, and to, I guess, continue this conversation, we’ve got another pit stop question for you. So of all the successful women that have raced over the years, and we call them the, the glorious ladies of racing, are there any on your bucket list that you’d like to meet and [01:22:00] talk to, interview with, maybe have as guests on your podcast, you know, things like that.

Well, first of all, we’d obviously love to have Jamie Chadwick on the podcast because she has just been the number one champion the past three years in a row for the W series and she’s absolutely crushing it. You know, we used to joke that we were gonna get into crypto and started dow to buy Haas with Dogecoin.

Brad’s got some Yeah, exactly. On his cyber truck. Uh, lot. Perfect. We are gonna kick Nikita Mazz pin out and instill Jamie Chadwick. This was before he got fired. You would not believe the backlash we received. on the internet for this joke. We posted a reel from our podcast where we were talking about this bit and we just got like decimated by people.

Like death threats. Yeah. Of people being like, you are the stupidest people in the world. You’re so like, I can’t believe that you’re such idiots. Like you don’t even know anything. You don’t know all this. Steps you would have to take. You can’t just buy a team and put someone in there. We were like, have you [01:23:00] literally ever heard of a joke?

Ha. Have you ever looked at the history of any of these Formula One drivers? I mean, I was like, oh my God, I, yeah. Like, I’m like, I’m sorry, Lance Joel’s dad bought him a team and put him in there. So like, I think I could probably do that for Jamie already. Yeah, I’ll be her dad . So we were, and it was just like we had to delete the video because they were just like spreading our, they were like, we hope they get cancer.

We hope they die. Like it was like, wow, so, so bad. That was a real day to be a woman on the internet. , talking about motors. Sport, but she is one of the leading ladies of the females in Motorsport right now. And so I think that she would definitely be someone that we would love to talk to cuz we’re eager to help support these women in their journey to become Formula One drivers or you know, more professional drivers in whatever series they’re looking to do.

And obviously, you know, we had Danica Patrick. You know, been pretty successful in her career. How can we [01:24:00] spread the good word and, and help Jamie get to where she needs to be? I really thought Danica was gonna be the next female in Formula One. Not to say the first, but the next. The next, right. Yeah. I mean, it looked pretty good for her for a while there.

And then she took that left turn and then she made another left turn and another left turn. All of the left turns. That was it. She went left, left, left, left, left. Yeah. I love Tony Brader. I think she’s really cool and like is bringing a whole new vibe to women in Motorsport. She’s a race car driver, but she also like has all of these like beauty brand partnerships and has like worked with like fashion houses and like is just kind of bringing like.

Spin to motor sports and saying like, I’m a woman that drives the car. But that doesn’t mean that like I don’t care about my hair and my makeup. Like I can be both and I am multi-dimensional and I care a lot about what I look like and do all these things, but like my job is that I drive race cars and I think she’s really cool and is kind of starting a new conversation around that.

Hopefully I think [01:25:00] more women that do that will show brands that like they can sponsor women in different ways and it doesn’t just have to be like Monster Energy sponsoring this girl. You can be kind of multifaceted as a woman and I’m really excited to start seeing hopefully a diverse set of brands getting into the space of motorsport, which is exciting.

And then obviously we’d love to talk to Susie Wolf, like I have to talk to her someday. Like I have to have her on the podcast. And I don’t even wanna talk about Toto. I don. I kind of do, but I don’t, I wanna talk about like her career and like the steps that she’s like carved her own path and she’s driven F1 cards.

Like she’s one of the women that have done that and like I think she has done a great job of keeping visibility on women. So I’m trying to talk to her. When you’re mining your Bitcoin and you’re gonna buy your team, you were gonna put Jamie in the. Who else would you put in the seat? You got your team.

You gotta have two drivers. You got two drivers. Well, it was still gonna be Mick at this point, so we were just gonna kick out Masin and keep Mick. Well, you’re gonna do an all [01:26:00] female team, so you gotta kick Mick out. Well, so then it was gonna be to Tony, Jamie and Tony. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, why not? Why not?

So would you guys go totally cliche and you’d go back to the Old Force India delivery were, they’re like all pink or do something different. We did discuss that our car was gonna be, we were gonna bring back the bubblegum pink and it was gonna be an all pink car and we were really just gonna lean into the girly vibes and we were gonna get sponsors like, I got one for you.

I got one for you. Okay. Tell us splayed across the side. Cotex the best period. . Okay. Ricky Bonding. Yeah. Tampa packs. We really lean into it. Well it was just gonna be the two girls one Formula team. We are gonna hypothetically have enough money that we wouldn’t need any other sponsors in this fantasy world that we had created.

I like that. Yeah. , that’s the same thing we do when we have our three car garage fantasy. So, yeah, exactly. So it’s just gonna be Team TG one F. No other sponsor. Nice . So ladies, we’ve come to that point in the [01:27:00] episode where I like to ask if you have any shout outs, promotions, or anything else you’d like to share that we haven’t covered thus far.

Give us a follow at two girls, one formula on Instagram and TikTok. Unfortunately, it’s, we’re not at two girls, one formula on Twitter because. You can’t have that many letters in your username. Give us a follow check out our podcast if you’re at all interested in pop culture side of things. And another plug is that we do have a website to growth one formula.com where we do sell some pretty fun merch if you’re looking for some not team branded Formula One merch.

We always have new collections. And also just as a quick aside, two girls, one formula is spelled t W O and then the one is a numerical one. There is someone else that has numerical two girls numerical one formula. And that’s not us , but you’ll know because they haven’t posted in over a year, two years.

The two Girls One Formula community is inclusive, welcoming, and accepting of all [01:28:00] types of. It doesn’t matter if you started watching yesterday or 20 years ago. They’re here for you to find people to connect with in a meaningful way. To learn more about Nicole and Kate and keep up with all things Formula One with their unique perspective on this great discipline of motorsports, be sure to tune in to their show Two Girls, one Formula on all your favorite pod catchers and music apps.

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This has been a lot of fun. We enjoy doing crossovers. I also wanna say that we’ve been very fortunate to have a lot of women on this show and you guys are joining an elite cast of folks and what you’re doing for the community at large is absolutely amazing. I know it’s gonna have a positive impact for years to come.

And I, again, I wanna celebrate [01:29:00] your guys 50 episodes and here’s to 50 more. So thank you and Congrat. Thank you guys. Thank you so much for having us and all of the kind words. This has been really, really fun and thank you for being kind to us for not knowing as much about cars as you all do . So thank you for going easy on us,

We’re still early in our car journeys, so we’ll have to come back on in two years and revisit all of these harder car questions. See if Kate gets a Kia Soul or not. Yeah, exactly. , we wanna know about Manza, that’s what we wanna know. Yeah, we’ll circle back. We’ll circle back after I reclaim Manza and see where we’re at then.

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